Chris, A choyte is a grace note slurred onto the pincipal note. Uillean pipe 'cuts', typically from a note one step away, or highland graces, typically from the other end of the chanter - in either case without closing the chanter in between - are choytes alright, and should be avoided.
The way of playing a grace note separated from the main note as on Tom Clough's recordings, is typically to sound them *before* the note they decorate - taking time away from the note before. You don't want to lose time. So if the note before is a quaver, replace it with a semiquaver, giving spare time for another semi, your grace note. Again this is different from a UP-type cut, which is accented, falling on the beat, taking time from the main note. We should ask Chris Ormston for a more detailed comparison of gracing styles on different instruments in the Northumbrian, Highland and Irish traditions. John PS Would 'tickle' be a less offensive term than the intentionally derogatory word 'choyte'? Just asking.... J -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2006 11:37 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Choyting again Greetings all, As an intermediate (I think) isolated self-taught nsper in search of information and advice, I have a few questions. Did the various contributors to the debate agree on a definition of choyting? If so, what was it? Are, for example, uilleann-type cuts out? Is the E gracenote in the second full bar of part two of the holey hapenny in the nsp soc's first tunebook a written-out choyte or are we seriously supposed to separate it from the D? Help!!! I noticed late last night that the passage of music reproduced on the bottom left-hand corner of the front cover of the Clough book includes pairs of notes with slurs over them and an F# gracenote between the final two low Es, which are joined by a tie. How are we to interpret these? (assuming that the passage is from a clough manuscript and not any old bit of music stuck there for decoration). Another point is that the Peacock collection (I have the facsimile edition, which contains a few obvious errors) is described as being adapted for violin or flute as well as the allthumbrain smallpipes so maybe we can safely ignore some of the markings. chirs To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
