On 16 Sep 2008, at 14:06, Gibbons, John wrote:

The question is whether choyting is *morally* wrong.

Undesirable, certainly, but not actually illegal, as is stated in the item below which I noticed recently during a visit to a town well known for its piping activities.

Francis

Choyting Designatory Order

In response to concerns from the public about choyting in the Town, the Council consulted with the borough’s communities with regards to introducing a borough-wide choyting ban. As a result, the Choyting Designatory Order came into effect on 1 July 2007 and will be used to help tackle this problem. The Order gives the Council the right to agree areas where people cannot choyte if asked by the Police not to do so (eg in a street, in parks or open spaces). Police have powers to control choyting within the designated area. If they believe someone is choyting, Officers can ask them to stop and confiscate pipes from people. If someone without reasonable excuse fails to comply with the Officer’s request, they are committing an offence and further action can be taken, including:-

        •       A Fixed Penalty Notice for Disorder can be issued
        •       Arrest and prosecution for a level 2 fine (maximum £500)
• Bail conditions can be used to stop the individual from choyting in public.

Q. Is it an outright ban on choyting in public?

A. No – it’s not an offence to choyte in a public place, but it is if people don’t stop when asked to do so by a Police Officer.



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