They paid Scott Dann 6,000 pounds more a week than we were willing to on top
of $3.5m transfer fee.  I assume we offered him ten grand and Birmingham
offered sixteen.




2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry <marcus.chan...@macquarie.com>

>  but I'm not 100% convinced that it can only be down to the salary cap.
> The Scott Dann case is an interesting one as I'm fairly sure that Berra and
> Zubar would be on more than he's getting at Blue and there are other players
> in the squad such as Doyle and SEB who are earning significantly more, so it
> seems that if they see the player as being important enough then they are
> happy to pay the wages.
>
> Perhaps Mick set his sights too high with some of the experienced Premier
> league players that he wanted to bring in and therefore left himself without
> a back-up plan.  Maybe the wages have nothing to with it, other than for
> Dann who they probably tried to get cheap as he was coming from lower
> divisions.
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>  *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 12:38 PM
>
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
>
>   I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems
> no one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in because
> of wage caps.  Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the wages of.
> There's a big difference.
>
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> 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry <marcus.chan...@macquarie.com>
>
>>  I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete
>> in this division.  Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so far
>> and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be changed
>> around, he seems devoid of ideas.  *Now if it is the players at his
>> disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely his own
>> fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he bought.*
>>
>> If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better
>> footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team
>> that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing as
>> if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's
>> strengths.  We do need to try something different and I think Saturday
>> showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become.
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd
>> pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries and
>> is off the pace to place in the Premier League?  So what was his tactical
>> stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!!  The man's a friggin
>> basket case.  Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and send back home to
>> Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim.
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM
>>
>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
>>
>>   I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either:
>>
>> (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty
>> of rumours that we were after some of these).
>>
>> (b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault).
>>
>> (c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs (and
>> who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be able to
>> compete).
>>
>> I agree that we are doomed.  I don't believe we'll find players in January
>> that will improve the first XI *and* will be willing to come to the club.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now.  Does everyone
>> think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough out
>> of them?  A new manager will only address the second point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT <lee.mor...@defence.gov.au>
>>
>>>  So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't got
>>> one player who has previously performed well in this league.
>>>
>>> The wage structure is that of a top championship team. If that is Moxey
>>> or Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can we? We will find out
>>> in January because if we don't make some significant quality signings we are
>>> doomed, surely that is plain for everyone to see now..
>>>
>>> The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it scares the life
>>> out of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go for it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:43
>>>
>>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
>>>
>>>   But that relates to my point about Scott Dann.  We got the players
>>> that were willing to accept the wages we offered.  That's Morgan and Moxey's
>>> fault.
>>>
>>> 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT <lee.mor...@defence.gov.au>
>>>
>>>>  Ultimately McCarthy
>>>>
>>>> They are the players he has brought in and the players he thinks are
>>>> good enough.
>>>>
>>>> Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can they do?
>>>> Keep trying until it becomes easier in the championship next
>>>> year????????????????
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12
>>>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this?
>>>> [sec=unclassified]
>>>>
>>>>   So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT <lee.mor...@defence.gov.au>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  It really was terrible stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not going to blame any individuals because its obvious most of them
>>>>> aren't good enough, however here are my thoughts on an inept few;
>>>>>
>>>>> Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to have a clue
>>>>> where he was supposed to be.
>>>>>  Ward made a big difference when he came on but collectively even that
>>>>> wasn't good enough at least he gets stuck in and is more decisive than 
>>>>> most.
>>>>> Ebanks Blake didn't get any good service but whenever he got near the
>>>>> ball he gave it away and fell in a heap on most occasions. Don't think its
>>>>> going to happen for him.
>>>>> Edwards gets involved but he was very lucky not to get booked because
>>>>> of clumsy tackles, not too bad.
>>>>> Jarvis was our only threat.
>>>>> Kightly, who know's, that's probably the last we'll see of him for a
>>>>> while.
>>>>> Halford, good job he can throw the ball a long way, but there's rarely
>>>>> anyone to take advantage.
>>>>> Hannerman looked very dodgy to start with, might be ok long term
>>>>> though.
>>>>> Stearman did what I'd expect of him and gets forward
>>>>> Henry does the simple things well and always gets lots of praise, maybe
>>>>> if he tried to be more creative his shortfalls would be more obvious, 
>>>>> don't
>>>>> think he's that special.
>>>>> Milijas, still think he'd be very effective  alongside a bruiser, by
>>>>> far our best passer of the ball.
>>>>>
>>>>> McCarthy, time to say goodbye, if he thinks these players are still
>>>>> good enough after all this time we are doomed. What must Halford be
>>>>> thinking, taken off so early because MM got it wrong, Mancienne would of
>>>>> been first off for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> New manager and some new players who will make a difference for
>>>>> Christmas PLEASE SANTA = A STRIKER / BRUISING MIDFIELDER / WINGER /
>>>>> EXPERIENCED CENTRAL DEFENDER just for starters, but get the new manager in
>>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I did back us on the TAB again, even I didn't think we were this
>>>>> bad.
>>>>>
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