Am Dienstag, 27. August 2024, 22:30:16 MESZ schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > Gerion Entrup schrieb am 27.08.2024 um 21:28: > > Hi, > > > > I played around with different fonts, especially Bitstream XCharter and > > Overpass (http://overpassfont.org/) and wanted to combine them. > > However, I see some issues regarding ligatures, kerning and > > obliques/italics. > > > > Here is a minimal example: > > ``` > > \definefontfeature[default][mode=node, kern=yes, liga=yes] > > % more features > > % [mode=node, kern=yes, liga=yes, tlig=yes, itlg=yes, ccmp=yes, > > language=dflt, protrusion=quality, expansion=quality] > > There is no need to set default features like ligatures and kerning, the > better alternative here is to use > > \definefontfeature [default] [default] [protrusion=quality,...] > > which adds additional settings to the default set. > > > \definefontfamily [myfont][roman][xcharter] > > \definefontfamily [myfont][sansserif][overpass][rscale=0.93] > > \definefontfamily [myfont][teletype][overpass][rscale=0.93] > > \definefontfamily [myfont][mono][overpassmono][rscale=0.93] > > \definetypeface [myfont][mathematics][math] [xcharter] > > > > \setupbodyfont[myfont, 11pt] > > > > \startTEXpage > > > > \showfontkerns > > > > Vitae, Vase, LT, VA, Y., Effizient, abcdel™, \italic{effi > > abcdel™}, \slanted{effi abcdel™}\\ > > \style[sans]{Vitae, Vase, LT, VA, Y., Effizient, abcdel™, \italic{effi > > abcdel™}, \slanted{effi abcdel™}}\\ > > \style[mono]{Vitae, Vase, LT, VA, Y., Effizient, abcdel™, \italic{effi > > abcdel™}, \slanted{effi abcdel™}}\\ > > > > \showbodyfont[myfont] > > > > \stopTEXpage > > ``` > > It produces the PDF in the attachment. I'm struggling with several things: > > - xcharter seems to have no kerning applied. It is listed as font feature, > > though. Is it correct to have no kerning at all for that font? > > The font has kerning information but none for characters in the ASCII range.
Good to know. Especially for the "Va" in "Vase", I expected kerning (it looks not equally spaced currently). > > - xcharter also have no ligatures (at least it doesn't look like that). > > That is listed as font feature, too, although only for italic and slanted. > > According to https://tug.org/FontCatalogue/xcharter/ there are ligatures in > > the font. > > There are ligatures for ff[il]. They are defined in the font, but they are not used in the PDF output, aren't they? For example in the "ffi" in "Effizient" the "f" is not connected with the "i", while the ligature glyph has a connection there. I attached a screenshot for comparison. The ligature was generated with "\ShowCompleteFont{name:xcharter*default}{11pt}{1}" (with the fnt-10 module). It is, however, noticeable that the whole xcharter font is thicker in the output of \ShowCompleteFont. Is this part of the reason? > > - Overpass has a glyph for the ae ligature. Is it normal that it is not > > used as a ligature for ae? > > This seems to be a stupid decision to replace ae by default with a > ligature, maybe dependent on the language but not for all of them. Ok, I've seen it here as (somewhat) common ligature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligature_(writing)#Computer_typesetting But there is also mentioned that TeX just has ff, fi, fl, ffi and ffl by default. > > - Overpass Mono does not contain italic glyphs. I would have expected > > obliques when using \slanted then. However, it just remains normal. > > You can use the slanted feature for this but the default setting is to > fall back to the upright alternative and you as a user has to make the > choice. > > Example: \definefontfamily[myfont][tt][overpassmono][sl={features:slanted}] Thank you! That make sense. > > - I included the ™ in the example since its italic glyph is not slanted. > > For all fonts \slanted seems to switch to the extra (italic?) glyphs, while > > I would have expected obliques. At least overpass seems to have no > > dedicated slanted style, while xcharter has one. > > How a glyph for a certain styles appears depends on the font designer. > > > When you use \definefontfamily you get always the same style for italic > and slanted because most fonts provide only italic or oblique (but not > both). In some case you do something like the following font setting but > the best solution when you have a large font family have is to write a > typescript. > > \definefontfamily[myfont][rm][xcharter][sl=style:slanted] Thank you for the explanation. That sounds meaningful. Gerion
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