Thank you for your apology. I understand the error, and it is that
Garulfo's translation is more of an adaptation than a translation. A
great adaptation.
As for my original work, I am aware that the merit of its diffusion lies
with the person who translated it into English. Out of humility he did
not want to divulge his name, and I will not do so. But with his
translation he made my work available to the whole world.
El 25/9/24 a las 19:33, Jean-Pierre Delange escribió:
I'm sorry to admit that I made the terrible mistake of identifying you
with Garulfo: I know now that it was a mistake, and I know that you've
already apologised for it. My original intention was not to praise
Garulfo and ignore your work, but to stress the importance of this
work, which was translated into several languages fairly quickly!
So a thousand apologies!
JP
Le 25/09/2024 à 19:25, Joaquín Ataz López a écrit :
Dear Jean-Pierre Delange, it is true that I do not participate much
in the list, and that Garulfo's translation into French of “a not too
short introduction to ConTeXt” is very meritorious and provides very
good ideas. So much so that the authorship of this text should
probably be attributed jointly to him and to me, since there are
ideas there that are not in the original. But from there to erase me
completely from the authorship of the document, I think it is excessive.
Having said that, I agree that one of the problems for the expansion
of ConTeXt has to do with documentation. But it is a difficult
problem to solve, because the creativity of the main programmers is
so much, that it is very difficult to keep the documentation up to date.
El 25/9/24 a las 17:24, Jean-Pierre Delange escribió:
Hi Hraban !
I agree with you on the diagnosis: the development of ConTeXt
documentation that incorporates the latest elements is primarily
concerned. It's true that many ideas never find their way to
implementation! I agree with most of your analysis, particularly
with regard to the desire to develop the ConTeXt documentation by
incorporating the latest elements. However, this is not impossible,
as shown by some recent contributions (such as 'A Not so Short
Introduction to ConTeXt' by Garulfo
(https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QS51fl3hrXNUObDPGX3FhxEiydlLl1hYkyKnALi8ByTH5TnEwia3vGayujUgVIg96JgSmPUJ7-zepw$
), which is translated into 4 or 5 languages. Secondly, I am
personally interested (and this is the case of what we are
discussing) in translating something really developed and
articulated, with practical examples, from the simple to the
complex. In particular, something like a book that allows you to
confront the various layout problems, especially for the exercises
(or practical cases with CTX).
JP
Le 25/09/2024 à 15:16, Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit :
Am 25.09.24 um 12:59 schrieb Jean-Pierre Delange:
Without burdening your shoulders with extra work, perhaps a
collaborative translation into different languages would be
appropriate? What do you think?
Wait until you see it and if you really want to translate it.
I don’t really trust in promises any more esp. WRT to documentation.
What became of the “cookbook”? What happened to the other book
projects?
Since nearly all other documentation is in English, my book is
already mostly an edited translation, and it doesn’t make sense to
translate it back.
Maybe just work on what is already public:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QS51fl3hrXNUObDPGX3FhxEiydlLl1hYkyKnALi8ByTH5TnEwia3vGayujUgVIg96JgSmPUJ7-zepw$
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/AKielhorn/Context-Intro__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QS51fl3hrXNUObDPGX3FhxEiydlLl1hYkyKnALi8ByTH5TnEwia3vGayujUgVIg96JgSmPWM6MYOGQ$
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ctan.org/pkg/context-notes-zh-cn__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QS51fl3hrXNUObDPGX3FhxEiydlLl1hYkyKnALi8ByTH5TnEwia3vGayujUgVIg96JgSmPVlD7CCfA$
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt,_an_excursion__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QS51fl3hrXNUObDPGX3FhxEiydlLl1hYkyKnALi8ByTH5TnEwia3vGayujUgVIg96JgSmPVVdJAn6A$
… and the wiki, of course.
Thanks to anyone who is or was actively contributing!
Hraban
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