On 12/18/2025 11:54 PM, vm via ntg-context wrote:
Maybe this is the time to put a *complete ban* of any AI generated text
postings to this forum now that we still can.
Before you realize it you'll be wasting your time in replying to a
machine who's sole purpose is to keep you distracted form your work.
Anyone who gets caught ought to be banned, for ever.
As this forum is for (real) people to share and exchange thoughts and
information.
One cannot really put a ban on this. We don't put as ban on other
technologies either. It's more about not using ai the wrong way. The
problem is that, as a tool, generative ml can have its use although it
can interfere badly with creativity. So it's about using with care and I
have confidence that users here take care it it. After all, we're not in
a competitive space here (looking for the next typesetting hype every
few years). Also, people will likely get bored about ai at some point
and companies relying it it will fade away, as history shows us even
large ones seldom survive that long.
So, take a manual or an example snippet: one can use these tools to
write (generate) one, but where does the content come from .. at some
point one has to feed the system. Can you still call it your work and
call yourself an author? I definitely don't want to end up in editing
stuff that i could as well as written from scratch. The term author has
th be recallibrated then.
The same has always been true for programming: with the exception of
science based algoritms beyond my imagination (think perlin noise) it's
more efficient to just look atthe problem, think of a soluition and
wrote one (at least for me) and then I don't care if I spend more time
on it than someone else would. How would I know anyway.
For the record: some time ago Frans G and I had good laught about his
conversation with chat that ended up with funy mixups of context and
latex syntax (commands, color specifications etc) but chat was very
pleased about the positive feedback which was then not applied. He
turned it into a MAPS article. How are users supposed to know the truth,
that is the question.
But also keep in mind that one can find rather weird *human* comments on
ther web (like SE) on e.g. context from non-users that makes one wonder
if they ever looked at it or are capable figuring out tex (beyond their
narrow scope) at all. And those are indeed humans, maybe even considered
experts. Part of the problem is that anyone can write / bash / complain
/ suggest anything these days and some actually could have benefit from
cheecking-by-ai first. When I first ran into what was assumes ai, it
actually was called 'expert systems' (prolog, lisp times) and as far as
i understood experts were supposed to be involved, not web scrapers.
So .. no ban needed as I'm not too worried here. Now back to extending
manuals written in poor english,
Hans
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