On 12/17/25 22:45, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: > Hi Folks ! > > As an European citizen seeking official and reliable information > about secure document signing, I conducted an investigation which > indicates the following.
Dear Jean-Pierre, the text resulting from your investigation looks too much like AI- computed text (aka AI slop). Sorry, but I reported in `poppler` (the PDF library that ”Okular” uses to handle PDF documents) the issue about signing some signature fields wrong (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler/-/issues/1640). I also commented to the MR to fix that issue (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler/-/merge_requests/1923). You might even trust me with the following: “the output from the investigation” may sound as a fairy tale (things in real life are way more complex [and complicated]). Just as a detail, PAdES from `poppler` (and then for “Okular” and “Papers”) is technically wrong, since time is included in the signature (not as a timestamp token). This is not allowed in PAdES. I wish things could be as the AI-computed tale presents them, but in real life (from what I have seen in these projects) is that there is plenty of work and very few people to manage it. If you allow me a suggestion, please, when sending AI-generated text to the list, mark it clearly, so that anyone could skip it (if they are inclined to do so). That way, we would still have an option. Just in case you would like to know. Cheers, Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : [email protected] / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________
