On Sat, Jul 18, 2026 at 21:17 (+0200), Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 7/18/2026 8:03 PM, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 19:35 (+0200), Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

>>> On 7/15/2026 3:19 PM, Jim Diamond via ntg-context wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 07:17 (+0200), Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

>>> > > Am 15.07.26 um 01:08 schrieb Rik Kabel:
>>> > > > Do any of you run ConTexT on NixOS? If so, do you use standalone,
>>> > > > Texlive ConTeXt subset, full Texlive, or some other installation 
>>> > > > method.

>>> > > Regardless of NixOS, if you don’t need LaTeX, install LMTX (standalone).

>>> > That's very harsh to us ConTeXt users who use plain TeX.  (All 17 of us!)

>>> Oh, the secret sub-user group. But you can actrually run plain with

>>> mtxrun --script plain [--make] ...

>>> if needed but of course you knew that already.

>> Among the many things that I didn't know, that would be yet another.

>> Sometimes I forget things so there is more room to learn things again.

> You could have guessed ... how else can we test plain with luatex.

Did I know that we can test plain with luatex?  Maybe this is another fact
purged from my brain.  :-)

(And I sort of thought that with LMTX, luatex is just another bit of
history.  Well, I might have thought that, if I ever thought about luatex.)

Anyway, using a standalone distribution updated a few hours ago:

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$ PATH=/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:. mtxrun 
--script plain /tmp/plain-works.tex       
resolvers       | globbing | confusing filename, blah blah blah
resolvers       | globbing | confusing filename, blah blah blah
resolvers       | globbing | confusing filename, blah blah blah
mtx-plain       | running command 'luatex --fmt=luatex-plain  
"/tmp/plain-works.tex"'

warning: (kpathsea) /usr/local/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf:49: (kpathsea) 
No cnf value on line: OSFONTDIR =.
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.25.9 (TeX Live 2027/dev) 
 system commands enabled.

kpathsea: Running mktexfmt luatex-plain.fmt
mktexfmt: No such file or directory
I can't find the format file `luatex-plain.fmt'!
mtx-plain       | runtime 0.016 seconds

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so I think your statement "But you can actrually run plain with..." should
have been
     "But people whose system is configured correctly can actually run..."


                                Jim

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