On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > >> but if we support such a > >> thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space > >> related chars that needs treatment then > > > > There's not much to it, actually. There are some space characters in > > Unicode, and we should handle them as much Unicode-compliantly as > > possible; and there are some particular typographic conventions on top > > of that, for each language. It's easy to come up with a simple scheme > > to support both, and I've already outlined it on a different > > mailing-list (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008529.html). > > The problem is to decide how much of the users' old typing habits we > > this is indeed an important point ... we don't want to cripple default > behaviour by that (we already have -- --- and such)
The spaces before « ; » and others are not the same habits than « -- » and « --- ». « -- » is TeX specific, the spaces no, it's just a french habit. > the problem with all these automatisms is that it then becomes > impossible to do something verbatim, i.e bypass those mechamisms I can't imagine a french text without those spaces. So maybe this specific question should be on for all french text, and something like \setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation] [no] can be use for the excepts. (For sure questions like always indenting the paragraphs are more complex since modern typography sometime don't put them). > > I can discuss that with you at BachoTeX, Hans. It's best done around > > a beer or two, anyway ;-) > > sure, enough beer at bachotek anyway ... If it can be solve with a beer ;o) Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________