On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist <mic...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Mathias Schickel > <m...@fa.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: >> Hi Mikael and Otared, >> >> I can confirm issues regarding primes, too. If you are using the STIX 2 >> fonts (http://www.stixfonts.org) and my example below you get a somewhat >> strange behaviour of primes that is pretty obvious. I think the issues >> should be fixed. >> >> By the way the issue seems to depend to some extend on the fonts. Using >> Lucida by \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] it is not that obvious but still present. >> Using Latin Modern it seems that the spacing between the primes changes >> between f'' and f^{''}. Cambria seems to show that behaviour (like Latin >> Modern), too, but less obvious. >> >> Best regards >> Mathias >> >> %% example >> \unprotect >> >> \definefontfeature >> [stixtwo-math-feature] >> [kern=yes, >> ss01=no, % calligraphic letters >> ss02=yes, % lowercase italic variants (e.g. open g) >> ss03=no, % hbar und lambdabar variants >> ss04=yes, % larger and lower primes, minute etc. >> ss05=no, % shorter arrows >> ss06=no, % narrower and shorter element and similar symbols >> ss07=no, % some smaller operators and emptyset variant >> ss08=yes, % upright integrals etc. >> ss09=no, % variant negated symbols >> ss10=yes, % variants of greater and lesser and similar symbols >> ss11=yes, % variant of negated set (inclusion etc.) symbols >> ss14=yes, % >> ss16=yes] % variants of circled operators >> >> \starttypescriptcollection[Stix2] >> \starttypescript [\s!serif] [Stix2] [\s!all] >> \definefontsynonym >> [Stix2Regular] >> [file:STIX2Text-Regular.otf] >> \definefontsynonym >> [Stix2Bold] >> [file:STIX2Text-Bold.otf] >> \definefontsynonym >> [Stix2Italic] >> [file:STIX2Text-Italic.otf] >> \definefontsynonym >> [Stix2BoldItalic] >> [file:STIX2Text-BoldItalic.otf] >> \definefontsynonym[\s!Serif] [Stix2Regular] [\s!features=\s!default] >> \definefontsynonym[\s!SerifBold] [Stix2Bold] >> [\s!features=\s!default] >> \definefontsynonym[\s!SerifItalic] [Stix2Italic] >> [\s!features=\s!default] >> \definefontsynonym[\s!SerifBoldItalic] [Stix2BoldItalic] >> [\s!features=\s!default] >> \stoptypescript >> >> \starttypescript [\s!math] [Stix2] >> \definefontsynonym >> [Stix2Math] >> [file:STIX2Math.otf] >> [features=math\mathsizesuffix] >> \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRoman] [Stix2Math] >> [\s!features={\s!math\mathsizesuffix,mathextra,stixtwo-math-feature},\s!designsize=\s!auto] >> \stoptypescript >> >> \starttypescript [Stix2] >> \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [Stix2] >> [\s!default] >> \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [Stix2] >> [\s!default] >> \stoptypescript >> >> \stoptypescriptcollection >> >> \protect >> >> \setupbodyfont[Stix2] >> >> \starttext >> % >> Compare $f'$ to $(f')$ and to $f''$, $(f'')$, $f^{''}$ and $(f^{''})$. >> % >> \stoptext >> %% end of example >> >> >> >> Am 22.05.2017 um 09:50 schrieb Otared Kavian <ota...@gmail.com>: >> >> Hi Mikael, >> >> You are correct, the position of \prime depends on whether there is a next >> character or not after it, and it seems that this has an effect on its >> position for characters having a subscript as in >> $f_{1}''(x) \neq f''_{1}(x)$ >> $f'f''f'’'$ >> Best regards: OK >> >> On 22 May 2017, at 08:51, Mikael P. Sundqvist <mic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Otared Kavian <ota...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Mikael, >> >> I agree with what you are reporting: the current behavior of the \prime >> operator is not completely satisfying when using ConTeXt mkiv, while in mkii >> it is the most satisfying (in my opinion…). >> >> The turn around consisting in using $f^{‘’}$ or $f^{\prime\prime}$, or even >> $f^{{}^{\prime\prime}}$, is not really satisfying either. >> >> But I think (or I hope that) at some point Hans will fix it in mkiv. >> >> Best regards: OK >> >> On 21 May 2017, at 08:14, Mikael P. Sundqvist <mic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> […] >> >> And just for reference, the document below gives the attached pdf, >> compiled with lualatex. I think the location of the primes there look >> better. Sorry for spamming about this issue, but I think it is >> important for all people writing math with ConTeXt. >> >> /Mikael >> >> \RequirePackage{luatex85} >> \documentclass[border=2pt]{standalone} >> >> \usepackage{unicode-math} >> \setmainfont{LucidaBrightOT} >> \setmathfont{LucidaBrightMathOT} >> >> \begin{document} >> $f'f''$ >> \end{document} >> <lltest.pdf>___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> Otared, thank you for confirmation. I also hope there will be a fix soon. >> >> In the meantime, I put yet another test file. The location of the >> primes depends on the next character (I use, at the moment current >> version: 2017.05.15 21:48) >> >> /Mikael >> >> \definefontfamily[myface][rm][Lucida Bright OT] >> \definefontfamily[myface][mm][Lucida Bright Math OT] >> \setupbodyfont[myface,10pt] >> \starttext >> \startTEXpage[offset=2pt] >> $f'(x)f''(x)f'f''$ >> \stopTEXpage >> \stoptext >> <primfisk.pdf>___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > Thanks Otared and Mathias! > > Hans, just to know, are you working on a fix? Is there anything more > we can provide? > > Best regards, Mikael
In current version: 2017.05.25 12:50 all problems I've noticed with primes seem to be gone! Now we can even write $u''_p$ or $u_p''$. Hans, your work and quick fix of this problem is very much appreciated! Best regards, Mikael ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________
