More like job insecurity. Missing an exploit might be a career ending
event, even if it is heretofore an unknown exploit.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:54 AM Melvin Backus <melvin.bac...@byers.com>
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> Some call them opportunities, we in IT call them job security. J
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> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Buff
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 11:34 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU
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> There are always more problems:
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> https://www.thezdi.com/blog/2017/10/04/vmware-escapology-how-to-houdini-the-hypervisor
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRemWLNBSZg
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> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com>
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> But wait!   There's more...
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ
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> ​(I see your "solution" and raise you two more problems)​
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> Regards,
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> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The OS in question (minix), isn't in the main CPU - it's in the CPU of the
> management engine, which is completely separate, and doesn't, or at least
> shouldn't, affect system performance.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology#Hardware
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> That actually makes it worse, since as long as the machine is connect to
> power, even though putatively "off", the management engine is available.
> That is, if it's been configured. This is an enterprise feature, so the ME
> is usually not active in consumer-grade computers.
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> But, if it's present and turned on, then it's pretty risky:
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> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/09/chipzilla_come_closer_closer_listen_dump_ime/
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> But there's some hope, of a sort - Google is on the case:
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> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/google-removing-minix-management-engine-intel,35876.html
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> Kurt
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> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com>
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> No wonder our machines don't seem as fast as we think they *could* be...
>    They're busy running more stuff than we thought:
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> http://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/
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> The security implications are also pretty staggering...
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> Regards,
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>  *ASB*
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