>>Even I-mail, a plain vanilla (boring) email server isn't far
behind in price!

If a client just wants a basic POP/SMTP server, the price for the product
would be almost nothing.  Postfix and Sendmail on some free *nix works just
fine.

Beer for Clayton and Joe.

William



-----Original Message-----
From: Joe L. Casale
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: 9/9/01 12:55 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000

I think 1300.00 bucks Canadian last I checked for E2k?
Expensive?
Considering what you can do w/ it, I think not!
Geesh! Even I-mail, a plain vanilla (boring) email server isn't far
behind in price! As far as the sec holes in OL, well I am not worried,
part of the cost of doing biz I think. The man hours associated w/
exchange are practically nill! Automated backups, I verify 'em for fun
once and a while, and maybe if I am bored, Ill pull it offline for a
defrag. Think I did that 5 times in my life! Maybe while your investing
in all the man hours keeping your working, I peruse my eyes through M$'s
site and look for new OL holes!

Jlc



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000


I've been on systems with Exchange, Groupwise and Notes.   Currently
working with Notes R5.    I dont really like any of them - they are all
too
cumbersome.   I havent worked with any of the new web clients yet - one
thing I really dislike is the monster client they all have.   I am happy
that I dont have to try to keep up with all the Outlook security
problems
though.   We have had zero security problems with Notes R5.    I would
rather have a simple email system such as Novell IMS which requires no
administration if you are using NDS.   Then use a webserver for intranet
and database front end to take the place of the Notes databases.   We
use
all the features of Notes but it takes a huge amount of support
manhours.

Last I read, Notes has about 60 million seats and Exchange has about 35
million.    Everyone else is an also-ran.   Whatever features one has
over
the other will probably be shortlived, as they tend to converge on the
feature set that the users want.     I'm glad I dont have to select one
over the other right now.  They are all bloated, too expensive, and a
black
hole for support hours.


 

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