Re: OT? perspective of events

[Kelly Borndale]

Well, Carnivore is for "known" addresses -it doesn't just snoop all communications.  Echelon, which has been in place for quite a while, originally for phone conversations, is the one that will listen for certain words, and flag them.  Whether or not they are using Echelon (which is constantly said to "not exist", the British Parliment just had a vote on whether or not to keep denying its existance) in conjunction with Carnivore, I do not know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ K.Borndale   [EMAIL PROTECTED] -home email ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Lundy To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts.  My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool).  In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy.  As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed?  I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore.  Today, I'm willing to accept some software "black-box" scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop.  I'm all for them.  Many of our list members are in NY and DC.  Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm