Damn it, there are just too damn many Murry's. Someone is going to have
to change their name. :o)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Don, that is funny. This is not Murray the 20 year old Canadian. It is
Murray the 62 year old American - - -Mr. Murray Freeman.
Mal Sasalu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was
specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The
rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are
ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete
country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have
been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to
everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news
item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings
and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian
newspaper,
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the
most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the
earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions
of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries
is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United
States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the
Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and
swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that
hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened
by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into
discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing
about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any
other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet,
the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly
them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You
talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about
American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but
several times
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and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not
pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them,
unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars
from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the
Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned
them an old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced
to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even
during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned
tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this
thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb
their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I
hope Canada is not one of those.
Stand proud, America!
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So
maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it
again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on
sysadmin stuff to which we have complied with.
As was stated, if "you" or anyone else doesn't like it, delete the
thread. Simple.. Eh!
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Uh, yesterday afternoon, Stu suggested that we end the current thread
re:the WTC subject. At least that's the way I understood him. So, I
stopped posting on that subject. I don't remember Stu "reopening" other
than NTSYSADMIN subject matters, so perhaps Stu would like to clarify
this issue. I'm still seeing WTC subjects or related subjects that have
nothing to do with NTSYSADMIN matters, so I too question if we are still
being allowed to discuss the WTC subject. Stu, let's hear from you!
Murray
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Did anyone ask you what you think? Are you the list owner?
Apparently, you don't give a damn about the recent events in America.
Stu has opened this list up as a place for us to discuss these tragic
events. If you don't like it... GO
AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe the answers to these questions are self explanatory...
-----Original Message-----
From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list?
I don't think so.
wil
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