Now with the link I intended....:P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbAFgD2mLo&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1
- WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 15:07, William Robbins <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm your huckleberry... > > - WJR > > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:48, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote: > >> You're no daisy. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:41 PM, William Robbins <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things >>> you've listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job >>> appropriately. >>> >>> But then, given your posts regarding this "problem" today I doubt you'll >>> understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan whose >>> head seems to be swelling. >>> >>> He's been walking around paraphrasing "Tombstone" of all things... >>> >>> - WJR >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err... >>>> Outlook is >>>> a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now, I >>>> have a >>>> VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so, yeah... my >>>> system isn't just sitting here doing nothing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM >>>> >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes >>>> dedicated) servers. Why not go the whole hog and run your email and >>>> internet >>>> browsing on a server too? If you were using a thin client or a >>>> drastically >>>> underpowered PC, then this would make sense, but not if you have a >>>> decent >>>> workstation. >>>> >>>> I agree that running lots of consoles creates a headache due to startup >>>> time >>>> and occasionally on a resource basis, so what we try to do is integrate >>>> as >>>> much stuff as possible into OpsManager, so we don't need to stare at a >>>> load >>>> of consoles. Then I can only open consoles as I need to work on them. >>>> But if >>>> your PC can't handle running seven or eight applications including a few >>>> management consoles, or if you worry because your machine uses lots of >>>> its >>>> memory (even though it is there to be used), then you have a few issues >>>> that >>>> need to be resolved. >>>> >>>> Just my 2 penneth worth, ymmv >>>> Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at >>>> any >>>> moment >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Steve Ens <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:04:20 -0500 >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> >>>> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> Better on a workstation than on a server is all I can say. >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Well, yeah... but I don't choose to load down my workstation with a >>>> whole >>>> bunch of management consoles and associated crap. :D >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:23 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Agreed. I can run the VIPRE console on the server but choose to do it >>>> from >>>> my desktop machine instead. It's rarely open on the server. >>>> >>>> >>>> Roger Wright >>>> ___ >>>> Dr. Seuss is my favorite rapper! Cat - Hat... sheer genius! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected] >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> Why on earth have the console running all the time, then? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, John Aldrich < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Nope... it's not the Vipre server that's the problem, it's the console. >>>> Guess I'll just have to live with manually shutting down the console if >>>> I >>>> want to reboot the server. It's not that big a deal now that I've >>>> decided >>>> not to automatically reboot the server weekly. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:59 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> how about a "net stop <vipre services>". I can't test right now, but >>>> that >>>> seems like it would stop the console too. there's two key vipre >>>> services, >>>> by the way. If you can "net stop", there's no reason to taskkill >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Andrew S. Baker [[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:20 AM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Well, if they (app vendor) offer no programmatic way to shut the console >>>> down, and they (app vendor) are suggesting that you kill the task, then >>>> your >>>> only other alternative will be an application that programmatically >>>> manages >>>> the dialog boxes. This approach will likely be complicated by the >>>> state of >>>> the server (e.g. workstation locked). >>>> >>>> Process killing is rarely fraught with peril... >>>> >>>> ASB >>>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I suppose there’s no real reason to reboot the server on a scheduled >>>> basis… >>>> THAT server has never had any real issues… As for not running the >>>> Console >>>> remotely, I really don’t wish to install it on another machine as it’s a >>>> bit >>>> of a resource hog. As far as taskkill, I just don’t like killing off a >>>> process “just because”, and that’s what that seems like to me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:25 AM >>>> >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> A - Why are you rebooting the server on a scheduled basis? >>>> >>>> >>>> B - Why are you not running the Vipre console remotely? >>>> >>>> C - What's wrong with Taskkill (assuming you don't wish to address the >>>> previous two issues)? >>>> ASB >>>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I have to manually shut down Vipre Enterprise Console if I want the >>>> server >>>> to come up on a scheduled reboot, otherwise it hangs the server and I >>>> have >>>> to manually power-cycle the server to get it to work. I checked with >>>> Sunbelt >>>> support and they said there is no way to *programmatically* close the >>>> console when I reboot the server (scheduled task, so it's >>>> non-interactive.) >>>> They suggested using Microsoft's TaskKill. Anyone got any better >>>> suggestions? Server is Windows 2003R2 standard. >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to [email protected] >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
