Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our "work."
- WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: > $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad > core with 8GB of RAM.... > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. >> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I >>> mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office >>> 2010 >>> and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a >>> 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy >>> is >>> going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time >>> soon. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things >>> you've >>> listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job >>> appropriately. >>> >>> But then, given your posts regarding this "problem" today I doubt you'll >>> understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan >>> whose >>> head seems to be swelling. >>> >>> He's been walking around paraphrasing "Tombstone" of all things... >>> >>> - WJR >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich < >>> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err... Outlook >>> is >>> a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now, I have >>> a >>> VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so, yeah... my >>> system isn't just sitting here doing nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes >>> dedicated) servers. Why not go the whole hog and run your email and >>> internet >>> browsing on a server too? If you were using a thin client or a >>> drastically >>> underpowered PC, then this would make sense, but not if you have a decent >>> workstation. >>> >>> I agree that running lots of consoles creates a headache due to startup >>> time >>> and occasionally on a resource basis, so what we try to do is integrate >>> as >>> much stuff as possible into OpsManager, so we don't need to stare at a >>> load >>> of consoles. Then I can only open consoles as I need to work on them. But >>> if >>> your PC can't handle running seven or eight applications including a few >>> management consoles, or if you worry because your machine uses lots of >>> its >>> memory (even though it is there to be used), then you have a few issues >>> that >>> need to be resolved. >>> >>> Just my 2 penneth worth, ymmv >>> Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any >>> moment >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Steve Ens <[email protected]> >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:04:20 -0500 >>> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> >>> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] >>> > >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Better on a workstation than on a server is all I can say. >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Aldrich >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Well, yeah... but I don't choose to load down my workstation with a whole >>> bunch of management consoles and associated crap. :D >>> >>> >>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:23 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Agreed. I can run the VIPRE console on the server but choose to do it >>> from >>> my desktop machine instead. It's rarely open on the server. >>> >>> >>> Roger Wright >>> ___ >>> Dr. Seuss is my favorite rapper! Cat - Hat... sheer genius! >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Why on earth have the console running all the time, then? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, John Aldrich < >>> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Nope... it's not the Vipre server that's the problem, it's the console. >>> Guess I'll just have to live with manually shutting down the console if I >>> want to reboot the server. It's not that big a deal now that I've decided >>> not to automatically reboot the server weekly. >>> >>> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:59 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> how about a "net stop <vipre services>". I can't test right now, but >>> that >>> seems like it would stop the console too. there's two key vipre >>> services, >>> by the way. If you can "net stop", there's no reason to taskkill >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Andrew S. Baker [[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:20 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Well, if they (app vendor) offer no programmatic way to shut the console >>> down, and they (app vendor) are suggesting that you kill the task, then >>> your >>> only other alternative will be an application that programmatically >>> manages >>> the dialog boxes. This approach will likely be complicated by the state >>> of >>> the server (e.g. workstation locked). >>> >>> Process killing is rarely fraught with peril... >>> ASB >>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, John Aldrich >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I suppose there’s no real reason to reboot the server on a scheduled >>> basis… >>> THAT server has never had any real issues… As for not running the Console >>> remotely, I really don’t wish to install it on another machine as it’s a >>> bit >>> of a resource hog. As far as taskkill, I just don’t like killing off a >>> process “just because”, and that’s what that seems like to me. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:25 AM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> A - Why are you rebooting the server on a scheduled basis? >>> >>> >>> B - Why are you not running the Vipre console remotely? >>> >>> C - What's wrong with Taskkill (assuming you don't wish to address the >>> previous two issues)? >>> ASB >>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, John Aldrich >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I have to manually shut down Vipre Enterprise Console if I want the >>> server >>> to come up on a scheduled reboot, otherwise it hangs the server and I >>> have >>> to manually power-cycle the server to get it to work. I checked with >>> Sunbelt >>> support and they said there is no way to *programmatically* close the >>> console when I reboot the server (scheduled task, so it's >>> non-interactive.) >>> They suggested using Microsoft's TaskKill. Anyone got any better >>> suggestions? 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