You're telling me that a virus on the CD/DVD can't infect the boot sector of the HD on the machine if the drive is visible to the PE environment?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:56 AM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: > You’re telling me that a virus on the USB drive can’t infect the boot > sector of the HD on the machine if the drive is visible to the PE > environment?**** > > ** ** > > *John W. Cook***** > > *System Administrator***** > > *Partnership For Strong Families* > > *5950 NW 1st Place* > > *Gainesville, Fl 32607* > > *Office (352) 244-1610***** > > *Cell (352) 215-6944***** > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4***** > > ** ** > > *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:51 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks?**** > > ** ** > > You are booting into a completely different OS and not launching any > applictions to do this scan. I am not sure I understand the level of > paronoia.**** > > Steven Peck**** > > http://www.blkmtn.org**** > > > **** > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote:**** > > My point exactly – a CD/DVD is 100% safe. I can’t tell you how many times > I’ve had users call in telling me their wireless isn’t working on their > laptop only to find out they’ve accidentally hit the slider on the side of > the computer that turns it off. It happens, even to IT people (especially > when they are under pressure to fix several high priority things). I’m not > against using a USB drive but for safety it’s my second choice. And a DVD > costs me about $.20, maybe less. **** > > **** > > *John W. Cook***** > > *System Administrator***** > > *Partnership For Strong Families***** > > *5950 NW 1st Place***** > > *Gainesville, Fl 32607***** > > *Office (352) 244-1610***** > > *Cell (352) 215-6944***** > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4***** > > **** > > *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:31 AM**** > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks?**** > > **** > > Well, I guess if it's read-only, a virus would have a hell of a job copying > itself to it. But if the virus is already present when you set the switch to > read-only, then it will still execute, I should think.**** > > On 13 September 2011 16:28, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> > wrote:**** > > I have never used a flash drive with a write-protect switch. Does anyone on > the list have any experience with those and know whether or not a virus > would be able to bypass that? Just curious how effective it would be in > keeping viruses at bay. That being said, if you're booting off it, I don't > really see a huge issue as you're not going to be running anything off the > hard drive, so at least in theory, you shouldn't need to worry about > viruses > that may be on the hard drive. > > > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:25 AM**** > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks?**** > > Quick check of Amazon.com seems to show: > > 2GB drive for $10 > http://www.amazon.com/Flash-Drive-write-protect-switch/dp/B005KL31E6 > > 8GB drive for $20.99 > > http://www.amazon.com/RiDATA-Flash-Drive-Slider-Drives/dp/B000RGDA5E/ref=pd_ > cp_e_4 > > 32GB drive for $57.99 > > http://www.amazon.com/Ritek-Ridata-Twister-Protection-RDEZ32G-TW-LIG0/dp/B00 > 2G9TWUM > > Sure, you can get a DVD for less than a dollar, but for the prices above, > I’d just get the flash drive and the ease of use that comes with that. > > Cheers > Ken > > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 9:57 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? > > They are lots more expensive than CD/DVDs, however. Not that this is > automatically a non-starter, but it speaks to Mr. Cook's earlier point. > > I'd sooner get a USB DVD drive, even though they are slightly less > portable. > > ASB > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, John Aldrich < > jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> > wrote: > There are USB sticks with a switch that is supposed to make them read-only > until you flip the switch again. I don't know how that works or how well, > but I know that there are flash drives with a write-protect switch on 'em. > You can find 'em on NewEgg and probably elsewhere. I just checked on NewEgg > to make sure I wasn't misremembering. > > > > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? > > Did not and here’s why – I have yet to hear about any guaranteed way to > make > a USB drive unwriteable on any machine you plug it into short of having a > manufacturer burn the data to one and ship it to you in which case you’re > paying 25x more for the same effect a non rewritable CD/DVD gives you. If > anyone knows of a way to do it (and I’m not talking about a reg hack on a > machine or a program that disables the functionality on a computer) please > share. > > John W. Cook > System Administrator > Partnership For Strong Families > 5950 NW 1st Place > Gainesville, Fl 32607 > Office (352) 244-1610 > Cell (352) 215-6944 > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 > > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:27 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? > > Thanks, anyone tried this on a USB stick? > > Z > > Edward E. Ziots > CISSP, Network +, Security + > Security Engineer > Lifespan Organization > Email:ezi...@lifespan.org > Cell:401-639-3505 > From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:18 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? > > Excellent! > > Thank you. > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: > The Microsoft system sweeper standalone seemed to work well when I tested > it. > http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper > > John W. Cook > System Administrator > Partnership For Strong Families > 5950 NW 1st Place > Gainesville, Fl 32607 > Office (352) 244-1610 > Cell (352) 215-6944 > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 > > From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:13 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Anti-virus boot-up disks? > > Best boot-to virus clean-up options. > > Friends like to bring me their contaminated laptops, and I mostly > clean-install over them. > > I know AV exists that let you boot to a clean-up disk, who has favorites? > > Thanks > > > -- > G. 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