You do not understand this level of paranoia. We just all think you do. :-)
On 13 September 2011 16:51, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > You are booting into a completely different OS and not launching any > applictions to do this scan. I am not sure I understand the level of > paronoia. > Steven Peck > http://www.blkmtn.org > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: > >> My point exactly – a CD/DVD is 100% safe. I can’t tell you how many >> times I’ve had users call in telling me their wireless isn’t working on >> their laptop only to find out they’ve accidentally hit the slider on the >> side of the computer that turns it off. It happens, even to IT people >> (especially when they are under pressure to fix several high priority >> things). I’m not against using a USB drive but for safety it’s my second >> choice. And a DVD costs me about $.20, maybe less. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *John W. Cook***** >> >> *System Administrator***** >> >> *Partnership For Strong Families* >> >> *5950 NW 1st Place* >> >> *Gainesville, Fl 32607* >> >> *Office (352) 244-1610***** >> >> *Cell (352) 215-6944***** >> >> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4***** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:31 AM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Well, I guess if it's read-only, a virus would have a hell of a job >> copying itself to it. But if the virus is already present when you set the >> switch to read-only, then it will still execute, I should think.**** >> >> On 13 September 2011 16:28, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> I have never used a flash drive with a write-protect switch. Does anyone >> on >> the list have any experience with those and know whether or not a virus >> would be able to bypass that? Just curious how effective it would be in >> keeping viruses at bay. That being said, if you're booting off it, I don't >> really see a huge issue as you're not going to be running anything off the >> hard drive, so at least in theory, you shouldn't need to worry about >> viruses >> that may be on the hard drive. >> >> >> >> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:25 AM**** >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks?**** >> >> Quick check of Amazon.com seems to show: >> >> 2GB drive for $10 >> http://www.amazon.com/Flash-Drive-write-protect-switch/dp/B005KL31E6 >> >> 8GB drive for $20.99 >> >> http://www.amazon.com/RiDATA-Flash-Drive-Slider-Drives/dp/B000RGDA5E/ref=pd_ >> cp_e_4 >> >> 32GB drive for $57.99 >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Ritek-Ridata-Twister-Protection-RDEZ32G-TW-LIG0/dp/B00 >> 2G9TWUM >> >> Sure, you can get a DVD for less than a dollar, but for the prices above, >> I’d just get the flash drive and the ease of use that comes with that. >> >> Cheers >> Ken >> >> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 9:57 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? >> >> They are lots more expensive than CD/DVDs, however. Not that this is >> automatically a non-starter, but it speaks to Mr. Cook's earlier point. >> >> I'd sooner get a USB DVD drive, even though they are slightly less >> portable. >> >> ASB >> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker >> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >> >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, John Aldrich < >> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >> wrote: >> There are USB sticks with a switch that is supposed to make them read-only >> until you flip the switch again. I don't know how that works or how well, >> but I know that there are flash drives with a write-protect switch on 'em. >> You can find 'em on NewEgg and probably elsewhere. I just checked on >> NewEgg >> to make sure I wasn't misremembering. >> >> >> >> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? >> >> Did not and here’s why – I have yet to hear about any guaranteed way to >> make >> a USB drive unwriteable on any machine you plug it into short of having a >> manufacturer burn the data to one and ship it to you in which case you’re >> paying 25x more for the same effect a non rewritable CD/DVD gives you. If >> anyone knows of a way to do it (and I’m not talking about a reg hack on a >> machine or a program that disables the functionality on a computer) please >> share. >> >> John W. Cook >> System Administrator >> Partnership For Strong Families >> 5950 NW 1st Place >> Gainesville, Fl 32607 >> Office (352) 244-1610 >> Cell (352) 215-6944 >> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 >> >> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:27 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? >> >> Thanks, anyone tried this on a USB stick? >> >> Z >> >> Edward E. Ziots >> CISSP, Network +, Security + >> Security Engineer >> Lifespan Organization >> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org >> Cell:401-639-3505 >> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:18 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? >> >> Excellent! >> >> Thank you. >> >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: >> The Microsoft system sweeper standalone seemed to work well when I tested >> it. >> http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper >> >> John W. Cook >> System Administrator >> Partnership For Strong Families >> 5950 NW 1st Place >> Gainesville, Fl 32607 >> Office (352) 244-1610 >> Cell (352) 215-6944 >> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 >> >> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:13 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Anti-virus boot-up disks? >> >> Best boot-to virus clean-up options. >> >> Friends like to bring me their contaminated laptops, and I mostly >> clean-install over them. >> >> I know AV exists that let you boot to a clean-up disk, who has favorites? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> -- >> G. 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