No such luck here. Much of my licensing is a legacy of my predecessor. I've added some as needed to fill in missing gaps.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Sean Martin <seanmarti...@gmail.com> wrote: > That depends. If you have software assurance then the upgrade costs from > ENT to DC licensing should be pretty cheap. There are substantial cost > savings to be had by going with DC. > > - Sean > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> If you're starting out, without any existing licensing, Datacenter is >> almost a no brainer. My challenge is transitioning to Datacenter. That >> will likely happen at the next server OS release. >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> That was merely a throw away example. We got lots of licenses for lots >>> of stuff on 'em :) But when we order a vmware host, we order a set of >>> licenses for them. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Link < >>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> No. They're not... >>>> Data Center Licenses may only be run on multi-processor boxes. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, if they only have one processor in the host they're fine... ;o) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jonathan Link < >>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I sure hope it's more than one Data Center license... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We run VMware here and for every VMware host we have a Windows Data >>>>>>> Center license. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Watching the new HyperV 3 features and our environment requirements >>>>>>> and VMware's license changes, we'll be checking into it more next year >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> the Server software gets into beta and release. We are in the >>>>>>> beginnings of >>>>>>> our 3 year agreement with VMware so no immediate cost change for us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Ken Schaefer < >>>>>>> k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And as for Client Access Licenses (CALs), that doesn’t matter what >>>>>>>> you are running on the host – you still appropriate CALs.**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ken**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:47 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Virtualisation software**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No matter which virtualization solution you obtain, you will need to >>>>>>>> license the Windows guests that run in them. If you're running Linux >>>>>>>> guests, then you're fine, of course. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Purchasing an Enterprise license for Windows will allow for the >>>>>>>> running of up to 4 guests against that license. Purchases a Data >>>>>>>> Center >>>>>>>> license will allow for running an unlimited number of Windows guests >>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>> that particular license. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You need to review the licensing documentation again.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx >>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *ASB***** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>***** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…***** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Nigel Parker < >>>>>>>> nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk> wrote:**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi thanks to everyone that replied ! >>>>>>>> I have a working solution as we used Vmware products before that's >>>>>>>> why I >>>>>>>> went down this route >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I though with Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 you needed licenses for the >>>>>>>> clients >>>>>>>> to connect as we are running a mix of 2k and 2003 servers I gave >>>>>>>> this a >>>>>>>> miss, as we will have a number of people connecting to these virtual >>>>>>>> machines >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want the bare metal route as we cant spend anything at the moment >>>>>>>> And our thinking was that bare metal would have less overhead and >>>>>>>> therefore allow us to run more machines on the same host >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for all the replies >>>>>>>> Regards Nigel**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] >>>>>>>> Sent: 19 September 2011 17:10 >>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues**** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Virtualisation software >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For Bare Metal + Free, I think your only options are ESXi and >>>>>>>> XenServer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For nearly Bare Metal + Free, check out: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3512 >>>>>>>> ProxmoxVE - http://pve.proxmox.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We ended up using Hyper-V, but not the "nearly bare-metal" one >>>>>>>> linked >>>>>>>> above. We decided to use the full install of Windows Server and run >>>>>>>> Hyper-V on top so we could keep the ease of use functionality, 3rd >>>>>>>> party >>>>>>>> network and RAID management compatibility, and it wasn't _that_ much >>>>>>>> more headroom to have the full windows experience. The fact that the >>>>>>>> licensing allows us to the host server "for free" is nice, too. See: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V >>>>>>>> irtualization-Licensing.ashx<http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V%0d%0airtualization-Licensing.ashx> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Proxmox looks awesome for a linux based VM server. I recommend you >>>>>>>> try >>>>>>>> this one only if you're planning a small scale deployment, as they >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> have any good clustering support, yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Matt Ross >>>>>>>> Ephrata School District >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Nigel Parker >>>>>>>> [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] >>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 >>>>>>>> 01:16:57 -0700 >>>>>>>> Subject: Virtualisation software >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Hi >>>>>>>> > I am looking for some Bare metal Virtualisation software the >>>>>>>> criteria >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> > have been given is that it must be >>>>>>>> > FREE! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I looked on Vmware website and although they list >>>>>>>> > VMware vSphere Hypervisor >>>>>>>> > As Free it seem the product when I installed it said It was a 60 >>>>>>>> day >>>>>>>> > version - they gave me a serial number and I tired to follow the >>>>>>>> docs >>>>>>>> > about entering it however I didn't have the icon on my client to >>>>>>>> select >>>>>>>> > and install the license >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Is the product still free - >>>>>>>> > Do you have to run it for 60 days before you can enter the serial >>>>>>>> number >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Have I finally lost it ? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Help would be appreciated >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Nigel Parker >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> > Ultraframe (UK) Ltd >>>>>>>> > Tel: 01200 452329 >>>>>>>> > Fax: 01200 452201 >>>>>>>> > Web: <www.ultraframe.com> >>>>>>>> > Email: <mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> > represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. >>>>>>>> > This email is subject to copyright and the information contained >>>>>>>> in it >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> > confidential and may be legally privileged. 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