frustrating indeed.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 05:58, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:
> 1. Nothing
>
> 2. I will, I just have to wait for the app to fail again, which is 
> frustrating because I can't make it fail on demand. Now that it works, it 
> will continue to do so even if I reboot the server - something else triggers 
> the "fail".
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: App compatability continues
>
> 1) What is the difference between your account and the user account with 
> admin privileges?
>
> 2) What happens if you make user admin, try it once, it fails, log off and 
> try again as user with admin?
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 14:42, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:
>> Revisiting this one today, check this out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Log into RDS as standard user, try to launch this app and get
>> “Run-time error ‘70’: Permission denied” (same error I have been battling).
>>
>> Log that user off, make said user local admin, repeat the sequence
>> fully expecting the error to go away. Nope, same error
>>
>> Log in as myself, log into app as the standard user, application now
>> works (as has been the case)
>>
>> Log off, log in as standard user, launch app as standard user,
>> application now works
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking up the error, it appears to be a DCOM thing, but running the
>> DCOM config tool doesn’t help me as nothing jumps out at me to change…
>>
>>
>>
>> <scratching head>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:29 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking at this error further, it tells me just *opening* this key
>> (operation is RegOpenKeyExA) is a problem for a standard user.
>>
>> HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WinSock2\Parameters
>>
>> “Fails as standard user and succeeded with full admin permissions”
>>
>>
>>
>> With this app  - it’s on RDS - if I log in as local admin and launch
>> it, it runs fine. If a standard users tried to launch it any time
>> after I have fired it up (and even if I have opened then closed it),
>> it works too, so it’s as if there’s some dependent service that fires
>> up when initially launched.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bizarro info #2, rebooting the server after making the app work by me
>> logging in…the app still works for a standard user even if I don’t log
>> in after the reboot, yet after some undetermined amount of time (days)
>> it “breaks” again. This sucks because I can’t break the app on demand.
>> When it breaks what the users sees is they launch the app and they get
>> “Error 20 – access is denied” after trying to login to it (credentials
>> are specific to the app, which come to think of it talks to a DB on a 
>> different machine).
>>
>>
>>
>> This app has a dependency on Mozilla, but the users have access to the
>> relevant Mozilla folders.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any guesses?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:09 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok cool, thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:40 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> Shouldn’t be any reason you can’t build and install a shim there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brian Desmond
>>
>> br...@briandesmond.com
>>
>>
>>
>> c   – 312.731.3132
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:29 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> Whoa I omitted that this is for a 2008 R2 RDS application server, does
>> that change things?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:22 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> No, the second one you just need to build the shim with the AppCompat
>> toolkit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brian Desmond
>>
>> br...@briandesmond.com
>>
>>
>>
>> c   – 312.731.3132
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:09 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> Standard users already have read access to that key.
>>
>>
>>
>> Registry virtualization is automatically on in Windows 7 with UAC enabled.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:43 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: App compatability
>>
>>
>>
>> Using LUA Biglight which helps show what apps need permissions to run
>> as a standard user and not admin, it points to the following key:
>>
>> HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WinSock2\Parameters
>>
>>
>>
>> Solutions include “registry virtualization, the VirtualRegistry shim,
>> as a last resort, loosen permissions”. The first two involve the
>> developer doing something right?
>>
>>
>>
>> How much of a security hole is it  if I allow read access by Domain Users?
>>
>> David Lum
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