P2V is pretty much the same, I avoid it wherever possible. I've seen far too many P2V'ed citrix servers.
Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment -----Original Message----- From: Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:18:54 To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? The one and only time I tired to upgrade a server was 2003 to 2008 and there were so many quirks in the upgraded machine I just rebuilt the machine. It was a VM if that matters. Jon On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>wrote: > We're already on Datacenter so licensing isn't an issue. > > Based on past experience I'm with you on it, but it's always worth a > sanity check as if enough people tell me I'm living in the past and it's a > non-issue these days, I'll listen. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 04 October 2011 8:07 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? > > Since it's ridiculously easy to stand up a server I see no reason to do > an inplace upgrade ever[1]. > > Assuming your licensing is in shape, stand up a new VM, get it ready, > transition services, and then decommission the old VM. > > [1] Licensing is the issue in this matter, if you're out of licenses > standing up a VM may not be possible. Another point in favor of Datacenter > Edition. > 2011/10/4 Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> > >> I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years now as typically >> with physical boxes the box gets replaced after a three year period so the >> OS is rebuilt/refreshed. >> >> Virtualisation has changed that somewhat as we now have VM's with a >> potentially infinite "physical" life, and as a result I have quite a few >> that are still running Windows 2003. >> >> I may rebuild them all with 2008 R2 which also solves the fact that >> right now they're 32bit, but what are peoples experiences of upgrading >> Windows in-place? >> >> As I said I've not had to do so for years now so I'm out of touch with >> how good/bad of an experience it is these days? The one potentially nice >> thing is that other than any third-party apps, the VM's are about as clean >> as you can get, no HP PSP or suchlike to have to deal with. >> >> I should add we're talking small role-specific VM's here, nothing crazy >> like Exchange. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> ------------------------------ >> *MIRA Ltd* >> >> Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England >> Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 >> VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 >> >> The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use >> of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please >> delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not >> copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is >> prohibited. >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin