P2V is pretty much the same, I avoid it wherever possible. I've seen far too 
many P2V'ed citrix servers.

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moment

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:18:54 
To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows in-place 
- your experiences?

The one and only time I tired to upgrade a server was 2003 to 2008 and there
were so many quirks in the upgraded machine I just rebuilt the machine.  It
was a VM if that matters.

Jon

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>wrote:

>  We're already on Datacenter so licensing isn't an issue.
>
>  Based on past experience I'm with you on it, but it's always worth a
> sanity check as if enough people tell me I'm living in the past and it's a
> non-issue these days, I'll listen.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 04 October 2011 8:07 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?
>
>   Since it's ridiculously easy to stand up a server I see no reason to do
> an inplace upgrade ever[1].
>
> Assuming your licensing is in shape, stand up a new VM, get it ready,
> transition services, and then decommission the old VM.
>
> [1] Licensing is the issue in this matter, if you're out of licenses
> standing up a VM may not be possible.  Another point in favor of Datacenter
> Edition.
>  2011/10/4 Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>
>
>>  I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years now as typically
>> with physical boxes the box gets replaced after a three year period so the
>> OS is rebuilt/refreshed.
>>
>>  Virtualisation has changed that somewhat as we now have VM's with a
>> potentially infinite "physical" life, and as a result I have quite a few
>> that are still running Windows 2003.
>>
>>  I may rebuild them all with 2008 R2 which also solves the fact that
>> right now they're 32bit, but what are peoples experiences of upgrading
>> Windows in-place?
>>
>>  As I said I've not had to do so for years now so I'm out of touch with
>> how good/bad of an experience it is these days? The one potentially nice
>> thing is that other than any third-party apps, the VM's are about as clean
>> as you can get, no HP PSP or suchlike to have to deal with.
>>
>>  I should add we're talking small role-specific VM's here, nothing crazy
>> like Exchange.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Paul
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