In and of itself you're right, it's no big deal. Maybe I'm too old school as I 
remember using Shavlik to string together Windows patches before 3rd party 
tools were common. If you see my other posts on this thread you'll see it's a 
cumulative "misses" from these guys as far as AD/Windows-specific knowledge. In 
2006 when I started they were unaware there was an R2 version of 2003 Server, 
until very recently unaware that 2008 R2 was different from 2008. If you're a 
DA surely you should be up to speed on the OS string you're responsible for 
managing?

They are plenty technical enough to do the jobs assigned them (one does server 
hardware/Nagios, another does SAN's, another VMWare ESX, etc). Maybe my problem 
is I see DA as "special" and they don't see why every SE regardless of job role 
shouldn't be DA.

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How you know some SE's aren't really in the Windows management 
space

Why would a Domain Admin be, necessarily, expected to know about Shavlik? I've 
never seen Shavlik used in an enterprise environment (it's Tivoli, Altiris and 
maybe SCCM), so if a DA comes from an enterprise environment Shavlik's probably 
only something they might see in passing on a list/community like this one.

I'm sure there are plenty of products and vendors that each one of us here have 
never heard of.

Cheers
Ken

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011 1:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How you know some SE's aren't really in the Windows management space

"What's Shavlik? Never heard if it..."

And these folks are Domain Admins...
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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