Can you answer this - Since (supposedly) there will be support for more than 
2TB NTFS drives is this a new file system (NTFS64????) or just a tweak to the 
old one?

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell     (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

We weren't allowed to talk about futures, at least on the UC side of the fence. 
That was limited to a few comments and one entire presentation that MSFT made 
about Exchange 2010 SP2.

Under Sinofsky, the information is kept very tight to the vest.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

I didn't see any W8 server info at WinConnections, only the desktop and that 
was only pretty slides, not a lot of substance. It's even close to RTM so 
whatever you do hear will quite possibly change.

On a side note I want to throw out props to both Brian Desmond and MBS for some 
excellent sessions, I learned a lot!

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell     (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

I've read a bit about what Server 8 (And the new Hyper-V) is going to offer... 
and it sounds amazing. If people are able to share more info on it, I'm looking 
forward to this new setup.

If it's under NDA, I understand and await patiently for the details to emerge 
as they should.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Crawford, Scott
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 04 Nov 2011
09:27:29 -0700
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So,
my Mac Mini server arrived today...)


> The server 8 stuff sounds like it will automate some of this and largely
> obviate the need for clustering at all. Have you had a chance to play with
> it at all?
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> I have not yet clustered my Hyper-V hosts, but I do have an automatic backup
> running from one to the other (and vice-versa).
>
> I do intend to reformat and reinstall with Win8 and do shared-nothing
> clustering.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker
> [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]>
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> As I learned painfully at home last year. :)
>
> Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed to
> happen to everyone else (or so the story goes)
> ASB
>
> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link
> <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though.  At least
> you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a host.
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck
> <netadmin...@gmail.com<mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines on a
> single HOST server.
> That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>> wrote:
> So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power is
> actually needed for most services?
>
> I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They are
> doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard Active
> Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes me wonder:
> Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom?
>
> Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, fast HD
> or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 Celeron) handle
> most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, could I be getting away
> with less expensive hardware to do the same duties?
>
> I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better bet.
> Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option.
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Ens
> [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> 11:26:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
>
>
> > I wouldn't.  Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU.  Good
> for
> > some things, and not for others.  I think the NEO is pretty affordable
> too.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote:
> >
> > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon.
> > >
> > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC?
> > >
> > >
> > > --Matt Ross
> > > Ephrata School District
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve Ens
> > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
>
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > >
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > 10:40:10 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough.  great for everyday use, but
> > > wouldn't
> > > > want to run Autocad on it.  For media playout it runs fine too.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link
> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I left out similar specs...  Isnt that an Atom processor?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens
> <stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link
> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It's a nice form factor.  Not aware of anything that is quite that
> > > small
> > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum
> <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our district,
> > and
> > > > >>>> they run great."
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross
> [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>]
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM
> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a much
> > > slicker
> > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, just
> > > install
> > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in
> our
> > > > >>>> district, and they run great.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh
> > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>]
>
> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>>
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the Apple VM
> > > tech
> > > > is
> > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously?
> Single
> > > NIC,
> > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode?
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't mind
> > > playing
> > > > >>>> > around with at home.
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > >>>> >
> <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote:
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues
> > with
> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server room. It's
> > > doing
> > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia
> > > > >>>> > >
> [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com<mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>]
>
> > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > >
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700
> > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues
> > with
> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > >>>> > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > >>>> > > >
> <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > >
>
> > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little
> thing.
> > > It's
> > > > >>>> > > > > quite
> > > > >>>> > > the
> > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my windows
> > > stuff
> > > > >>>> > > > > on
> > > > >>>> > that.
> > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it with
> a
> > > > >>>> second HD?
> > > > >>>> > > If
> > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is space
> > in
> > > > >>>> > > > > there for
> > > > >>>> > > a
> > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>]
>
> > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700
> > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and when it
> > > > reboots
> > > > >>>> > > > > > it's
> > > > >>>> > > like
> > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now shut
> > > up".
> > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's hope
> for
> > > > this
> > > > >>>> > > > > > thing
> > > > >>>> > > > yet.
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:
> > > michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>]
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM
>
> > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini] Mac
> > Mini?
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > --
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org><mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>>
> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player. Opening
> the
> > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out
> > > > >>>> > > of
> > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why should I
> have
> > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the
> > > > >>>> > > > cover
> > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says:
> > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations,
> > > > >>>> > you
> > > > >>>> > > > and
> > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other".
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn Mac
> > > Mini...
> > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum
>
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