I am not a MSDN subscriber and it let me grab it...YMMV On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote:
> My bad. You are right. MSDN only. > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:29 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini > server arrived today...) > > I'd love to be wrong on this, but I don't think technet subscribers can > get it. At least, I can't find it on technet and this link seems to > indicate MSDN only. > > > http://blogs.technet.com/b/xuzonne/archive/2011/09/20/windows-server-8-developer-build-preview-available-for-download.aspx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:03 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini > server arrived today...) > > Any technet or msdn subscriber can download the Win8 Server preview. > > The EULA seems to disagree in places with my MVP NDA, so I'm going to only > speak in broad generalities. But I'm guessing that most MSDN or Technet > subscribers could tell you anything you want to know. :-P > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:36 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini > server arrived today...) > > I've read a bit about what Server 8 (And the new Hyper-V) is going to > offer... and it sounds amazing. If people are able to share more info on > it, I'm looking forward to this new setup. > > If it's under NDA, I understand and await patiently for the details to > emerge as they should. > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Crawford, Scott > [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > Sent: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 > 09:27:29 -0700 > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini > server arrived today...) > > > > The server 8 stuff sounds like it will automate some of this and > > largely obviate the need for clustering at all. Have you had a chance > > to play with it at all? > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:19 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac > > Mini server arrived today...) > > > > I have not yet clustered my Hyper-V hosts, but I do have an automatic > > backup running from one to the other (and vice-versa). > > > > I do intend to reformat and reinstall with Win8 and do shared-nothing > > clustering. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > From: Andrew S. Baker > > [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]> > > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:12 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac > > Mini server arrived today...) > > > > As I learned painfully at home last year. :) > > > > Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed > > to happen to everyone else (or so the story goes) ASB > > > > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > > > > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though. At > > least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a host. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck > > <netadmin...@gmail.com<mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines > > on a single HOST server. > > That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>> wrote: > > So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power > > is actually needed for most services? > > > > I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They > > are doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard > > Active Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes > me wonder: > > Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom? > > > > Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, > > fast HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 > > Celeron) handle most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, > > could I be getting away with less expensive hardware to do the same > duties? > > > > I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better > bet. > > Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option. > > --Matt Ross > > Ephrata School District > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Ens > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>] > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. > > sunbelt-software.com>] > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 > > 11:26:11 -0700 > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > > > I wouldn't. Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU. > > > Good > > for > > > some things, and not for others. I think the NEO is pretty > > > affordable > > too. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross > > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote: > > > > > > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon. > > > > > > > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC? > > > > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Steve Ens > > > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>] > > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. > > sunbelt-software.com>] > > > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 > > > > 10:40:10 -0700 > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough. great for everyday use, > > > > > but > > > > wouldn't > > > > > want to run Autocad on it. For media playout it runs fine too. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link > > > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I left out similar specs... Isnt that an Atom processor? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens > > <stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link > > > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> It's a nice form factor. Not aware of anything that is > > > > > >>> quite that > > > > small > > > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum > > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our > > > > > >>>> district, > > > and > > > > > >>>> they run great." > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross > > [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>] > > > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM > > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a > > > > > >>>> much > > > > slicker > > > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, > > > > > >>>> just > > > > install > > > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people > > > > > >>>> in > > our > > > > > >>>> district, and they run great. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> --Matt Ross > > > > > >>>> Ephrata School District > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh > > > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>] > > > > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > >>>> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. > > sunbelt-software.com>] > > > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 > > > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700 > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the > > > > > >>>> > Apple VM > > > > tech > > > > > is > > > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously? > > Single > > > > NIC, > > > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't > > > > > >>>> > mind > > > > playing > > > > > >>>> > around with at home. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross > > > > > >>>> > > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major > > > > > >>>> > > > issues > > > with > > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server > > > > > >>>> > > room. It's > > > > doing > > > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross > > > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia > > > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com<mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>] > > > > > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. > > sunbelt-software.com>] > > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 > > > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700 > > > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major > > > > > >>>> > > > issues > > > with > > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross > > > > > >>>> > > > > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little > > thing. > > > > It's > > > > > >>>> > > > > quite > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my > > > > > >>>> > > > > windows > > > > stuff > > > > > >>>> > > > > on > > > > > >>>> > that. > > > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it > > > > > >>>> > > > > with > > a > > > > > >>>> second HD? > > > > > >>>> > > If > > > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is > > > > > >>>> > > > > space > > > in > > > > > >>>> > > > > there for > > > > > >>>> > > a > > > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross > > > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum > > > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.or > > > > > >>>> > > > > g>] > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. > > sunbelt-software.com>] > > > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 > > > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700 > > > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and > > > > > >>>> > > > > > when it > > > > > reboots > > > > > >>>> > > > > > it's > > > > > >>>> > > like > > > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now > > > > > >>>> > > > > > shut > > > > up". > > > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's > > > > > >>>> > > > > > hope > > for > > > > > this > > > > > >>>> > > > > > thing > > > > > >>>> > > > yet. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto: > > > > michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>] > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini] > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac > > > Mini? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > -- > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org><mailto:david.lum@nwea.o > > rg<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>> > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Opening > > the > > > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out > > > > > >>>> > > of > > > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why > > > > > >>>> > > > > > should I > > have > > > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the > > > > > >>>> > > > cover > > > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations, > > > > > >>>> > you > > > > > >>>> > > > and > > > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other". > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac > > > > Mini... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to > > listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbelt > > software.com> > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to > > listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbelt > > software.com> > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ < > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ < > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
