I just challenged our Service Desk team to get involved any IT community. We 
have 5 Service Desk guys and about 10 Systems Engineer's and to my knowledge 
only one other (none of the SD guys) are connected to any IT communities of any 
sort, be it listmail, forums, newsgroups, etc. Pretty small percentage...

Dave

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

I see very little enterprise architecture and integration involvement in 
communities. I see more technical line-level engineering and development 
questions/answers.

Cheers
Ken

From: Rod Trent 
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]<mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]>
Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 8:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

There's a very small portion now that do not participate in a community 
somewhere.  And, those that do participate in communities tend to do better in 
their jobs and have a longer IT career.  So, I'm pretty sure the demographic 
that does participate would have value and probably provide better input than 
the small portion of those that don't.


From: Ken Schaefer 
[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]<mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

Communities only reflect a portion of what's going on as well.

There's a certain demographic of the IT industry that seems to participate in 
communities.

Cheers
Ken

From: Rod Trent 
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]<mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]>
Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 7:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

Do some searches for "gartner cloud" and look at some more recent articles.  
Even though the graphic in that article was only July 2011, that's really a 
long time in hype cycles.

If someone were smart, they'd find a way to automate data accumulation from 
communities and develop a real world research org.  It would be nice to see 
"what the industry says" versus "what's really going on".

From: Ken Schaefer 
[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]<mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

Really?

Gartner is saying that Cloud has entered the "meaningless hype" stage...
http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now-meaningless-169416

CIOs and CEOs still pay attention to this stuff because at least there is some 
effort to justify the conclusion. Most IT people I've run into couldn't write a 
business case to save their lives.

Cheers
Ken

From: Rod Trent 
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]<mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

Yeah...their track record isn't great (particularly over the last couple 
years), however, CIOs and CEOs still eat them up.  Gartner, right now, is 
promoting the Cloud like there's nothing else.  3 years ago it was 
"outsourcing".  Now, companies are bringing resources back in-house because 
they realized...  "Oops" that didn't work.

You just have to be very careful with "industry" information.  It can be just 
as politically motivated as anything else.

From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT

To me, Gartner's stats are just derived from flawed research and easily 
subverted questions.
ASB

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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rod Trent 
<rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> wrote:
Tada...

Particularly Gartner's, IMO...

From: Kim Longenbaugh 
[mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com<mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT

Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are.

From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT

You're going to want to check with the research firms:

Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/)




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