I work in communities.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT I see very little enterprise architecture and integration involvement in communities. I see more technical line-level engineering and development questions/answers. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 8:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT There's a very small portion now that do not participate in a community somewhere. And, those that do participate in communities tend to do better in their jobs and have a longer IT career. So, I'm pretty sure the demographic that does participate would have value and probably provide better input than the small portion of those that don't. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Communities only reflect a portion of what's going on as well. There's a certain demographic of the IT industry that seems to participate in communities. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 7:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Do some searches for "gartner cloud" and look at some more recent articles. Even though the graphic in that article was only July 2011, that's really a long time in hype cycles. If someone were smart, they'd find a way to automate data accumulation from communities and develop a real world research org. It would be nice to see "what the industry says" versus "what's really going on". From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Really? Gartner is saying that Cloud has entered the "meaningless hype" stage. http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now- meaningless-169416 CIOs and CEOs still pay attention to this stuff because at least there is some effort to justify the conclusion. Most IT people I've run into couldn't write a business case to save their lives. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Yeah.their track record isn't great (particularly over the last couple years), however, CIOs and CEOs still eat them up. Gartner, right now, is promoting the Cloud like there's nothing else. 3 years ago it was "outsourcing". Now, companies are bringing resources back in-house because they realized... "Oops" that didn't work. You just have to be very careful with "industry" information. It can be just as politically motivated as anything else. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT To me, Gartner's stats are just derived from flawed research and easily subverted questions. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rod Trent <rodtr...@myitforum.com> wrote: Tada. Particularly Gartner's, IMO. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Or just make them up.as 95% of all statistics are. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT You're going to want to check with the research firms: Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
