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OK and now that I read Mark's reply to me, never mind.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

From: Brian Desmond
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:33 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: IOPS's calculations

Those perf counters can be a bit misleading when you're looking at a SAN on=
 the backend, though.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]<mailto:[mailto:michae=
l...@smithcons.com]>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IOPS's calculations

Disk Reads per second
Disk Writes per second
Average Disk Queue Length

I'd track both logical disk and physical disk.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu]<mailto:[mailto:mark.rei=
m...@prairie.edu]>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IOPS's calculations

Hi folks,

Thanks for all your help in the past.

Looking at setting up a SAN. From my research, I think one thing to be awar=
e of is current IOPS (disk). There are a number of sites that will help you=
 determine IOPS based on what hard drives (and RAID configuration). My ques=
tion is: Many of my current servers are light use. The IOPS that these serv=
ers are capable of is much greater than what is actually being used.

So, in order to more properly size the SAN, is there a way to determine wor=
king IOPS? That is, what is actually being used? I assume Perfmon would hel=
p, and will need to log over a period of time (I think a week would be abou=
t right, to catch most scenarios). But what counters, and how to analyze th=
ose counters?

Servers are Windows 2003.

Thanks.


Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA
Servers & Networking Admin
Prairie Bible Institute
Box 4000
Three Hills, AB  T0M-2N0
Canada
Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476
Fax: 403-443-5540
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:#002060">OK and now that I r=
ead Mark&#8217;s reply to me, never mind.
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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span></b></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:#002060">Thanks,<o:p></o:p><=
/span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:#002060">Brian Desmond<o:p><=
/o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:#002060">brian@briandesmond.=
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ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"> Brian Desmond
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 06, 2012 10:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NT System Admin Issues'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: IOPS's calculations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><span style=3D"color:#=
002060">Those perf counters can be a bit misleading when you&#8217;re looki=
ng at a SAN on the backend, though.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><span style=3D"color:#=
002060"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><span style=3D"color:#=
002060">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><span style=3D"color:#=
002060">Brian Desmond<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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002060"><a href=3D"mailto:br...@briandesmond.com";>br...@briandesmond.com</a=
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002060"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
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002060">w &#8211; 312.625.1438 | c&nbsp;&nbsp; &#8211; 312.731.3132<o:p></o=
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an></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> Michael B. Smith
<a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]";>[mailto:michael@smithcons=
.com]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 06, 2012 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NT System Admin Issues<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: IOPS's calculations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">Disk Reads per second<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">Disk Writes per second<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">Average Disk Queue Length<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">I&#8217;d track both logical disk and physical disk.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">Michael B. Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D">Consultant and Exchange MVP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D"><a href=3D"http://TheEssentialExchange.com";>http://TheEssentialExchan=
ge.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu]";>[mailto:mark.reimer@pra=
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 06, 2012 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NT System Admin Issues<br>
<b>Subject:</b> IOPS's calculations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Hi folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Thanks for all your help=
 in the past.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Looking at setting up a =
SAN. From my research, I think one thing to be aware of is current IOPS (di=
sk). There are a number of sites that will help you determine IOPS based on=
 what hard drives (and RAID configuration).
 My question is: Many of my current servers are light use. The IOPS that th=
ese servers are capable of is much greater than what is actually being used=
.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">So, in order to more pro=
perly size the SAN, is there a way to determine working IOPS? That is, what=
 is actually being used? I assume Perfmon would help, and will need to log =
over a period of time (I think a week
 would be about right, to catch most scenarios). But what counters, and how=
 to analyze those counters?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Servers are Windows 2003=
.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Mark Reimer, A&#43;, MCS=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in">Servers &amp; Networking=
 Admin<o:p></o:p></p>
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