Alright then. I just think you'll find you're in the minority of people who think 2000 wasn't good or great.
As an aside, I remember when XP came out, people called it Windows Legos edition. People moved to XP because MS stopped updating 2000 and it wasn't a bad upgrade, mainly a change in look and feel, unlike Vista, which created all kinds of headaches much beyond look and feel. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:19 AM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Got it in one, I don't. It's like the fact I hate VW Golfs, they may have > loads of things people can reel off that are great, but I still can't stand > them. > > Anyway, I put "not so good" because aside from the fact I didn't like it, > it was quickly superseded by 2003/XP. And putting AD as a feature really > only applies to those running domains. I was speaking merely to a > perception of it for "how people found it to use". > > And if that Metro-abortion is anything to go by, I'll hate that too. But > I'll reserve judgement till after I get a chance to play with it and let my > initial "where have things moved to" frustration pass by. > > Besides, moving on, I've said all I want to about this, it's all just my > opinion, etc. , etc. > > On 8 March 2012 16:12, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com> wrote: > >> Well now you can have mine weather you want them or not:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> - Vastly improved GUI (bye bye ProgMan & FileMan)**** >> >> - Plug-N-Play**** >> >> - Power Management (you can finally use this thing on a laptop)**** >> >> - AD**** >> >> - MMC**** >> >> - EFS**** >> >> - Dynamic Disks**** >> >> - Fat32 support**** >> >> - USB support**** >> >> - UDF support (DVDs!)**** >> >> - WFP**** >> >> - WMI**** >> >> - WDM introduced (Finally Win2K device driver development became an equal >> citizen for developers)**** >> >> - Quotas**** >> >> -Legit DirectX**** >> >> - WSH**** >> >> - Group Policy**** >> >> -Offline Files**** >> >> -RDP/Terminal services in base edition**** >> >> -DFS**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> While each new version of Windows has a laundry-list of new features, and >> there are a bunch of other ones in Win2K I didn’t list (MSMQ, etc…), that >> subset I just listed are ones that made a significant tangible difference >> in the experience to me…. Major improvements.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> And the thing was pretty darn fast and stable. Heck I ran betas 1-3 for a >> year or better before release and they were pretty rock solid.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I’d argue Win2K may have been the single most significant release since >> NT was born.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -sc**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:46 AM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I thought 2K was sh!t. I've had everyone else's thoughts on this already >> though. But I still hate it. :-)**** >> >> ---Blackberried**** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Steven M. Caesare" <scaes...@caesare.com> **** >> >> *Date: *Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:40:08 -0500**** >> >> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>**** >> >> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>**** >> >> *Subject: *RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> > 2000 not so good**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Wait, what?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -sc**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 3:22 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Maybe everyone's just pensive because Microsoft have a habit of following >> good OSes with bad. NT4 good - 2000 not so good - XP/2003 good - >> Vista/Server 2008 pants - 7/Server 2008 R2 good - 8 ?**** >> >> On 5 March 2012 20:00, John Hornbuckle <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> >> wrote:**** >> >> As an enterprise, I’m very concerned about the learning curve, too.**** >> >> **** >> >> But at some point, you have to finally break away from the past even if >> it involves a steep learning curve. The jump from DOS to Win3x required >> quite a bit of retraining, as did the jump from Win3x to Win95. Both of >> those were fairly radical moves, and things have stayed relatively static >> since Win95 with the old familiar Start button in the lower-left corner.* >> *** >> >> **** >> >> Maybe it’s time for a big shift.**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> John**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Dan Bartley [mailto:bartl...@corp.netcarrier.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> **** >> >> I have to say my initial reaction is good for tabs. Like John, I can’t >> wait to see some of the new tablets. **** >> >> **** >> >> As for Enterprise, I don’t see Win8 making its mark if it stays the >> current course. In fact I have a feeling it will go the way of Vista in the >> Enterprise. It is too limiting and non-intuitive. It requires a complete >> retraining for users and very few IT people have the time for that. The CP >> also lacks some key domain support at the moment, such as in the printer >> and file sharing areas, so maybe next version I will change my mind. Then >> again, they really ditched the enterprise in Windows Phone in my opinion, >> so maybe they won’t improve on that.**** >> >> **** >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Dan Bartley**** >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into >> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' 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