That's certainly an approach I've used in the past but at the current %dayjob it's akin to say a non-profit or a company that doesn't many of the conventional "revenue" producing staff (outside of the leadership/executive team) e.g. marketing, sales, graphic designers, architects, etc. Putting your CEO hat on, In some instances it's a tough sell to say that a task-based worker needs a new PC every 3-4 years. And at the current day job most of the workforce is considered "task-based". Productivity is the direction I choose to base decisions on lifecycle management, but it's a constant battle on how to convey the need in an effective way which produces results.
Touching back on the topic of buying refurbs. I've done it previously, and it works great for one-off purchases, but it presents issues with hardware standardization and inventory. Plus, it increases support overheard for help desk, so we've stayed away from that recently. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: > That’s is how I sold my client on an SBS swing to new hardware, along the > lines of:**** > > “if your average employee compensation is xx/hr and they are waiting nn > mins/day for the machine to boot and nn/mins/day while the server is > processing something the cost is $$/employee/day. If new hardware/software > cuts the total employee “wait” time by nn mins/day then multiplying that by > xx/hr you gain $$/day of production.**** > > ** ** > > My client wanted to upgrade 10 of their 17 PC’s (their PC’s are 24yrs old) > to speed things up –but it was their SBS server that was getting flattened > (SATA drives running Exchange and SQL!), I said if they spent that money on > a new server instead (old was is a PE840) the’d see ROI in under six months. > **** > > ** ** > > Yesterday was their first day on the their new server and one maintenance > job they would run at the end of the day went from 20 minutes to just under > 5. That alone is 1hr 15mins/week gained for that one employee. ~$100/mo > saved right there.**** > > ** ** > > If employee’s are idle waiting for the system to do something, that’s > generally time they are not adding value.**** > > ** ** > > Dave**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:39 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: PC lifecycle?**** > > ** ** > > You have to work the numbers. How much downtime/lost productivity. It's > dependent on the situation. As I said, our computers are in the hands of > revenue producers. When they're down, they aren't billing their time. > They either have to make it up (morale issue) or it is lost productivity > (money issue). At current billing rates, it doesn't take long for an hour > or two of downtime to justify some additional upfront expense. If these > are office drones, it's a bit harder to justify it from a cost-benefit > perspective.**** > > **** > > YMMV.**** > > > **** > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Harry Singh <hbo...@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > To those who interface directly with your CFO/CEO or are the decision > maker, what reasoning/justification did you provide in order to shorten the > length of the refresh? I'm at a place that looks to refresh close to 5-6 > years, and that's even a fight sometimes. I know there is a wide range of > IT Pros here so curious to see if any actually had to "fight" for a 3-4 > year refresh or you've been lucky enough to work for a company which > pursues an aggressive refresh policy. > > Also, those that buy a refurb with 3 yr maintenance -- what's your target > margin of savings compared against buying a new machine? In other words, if > a new machine would cost $800 what's your target price for a refurb? **** > > > > On Monday, March 12, 2012, Brian Desmond <br...@briandesmond.com> wrote: > > My customers vary from 3-5, err’ing to the left. Whatever the choice, > they generally have maintenance on the hardware. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brian Desmond > > > > br...@briandesmond.com > > > > > > > > w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 > > > > > > > > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:13 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: PC lifecycle? > > > > > > > > How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? > > > > 4? 5? 6 years? > > > > My oldest are a few from 2006. > > > > I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years > if heavy user/issues). > > > > I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get > some idea as to what others do. > > > > Thx > > > > . > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ** ** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
