Personal opinion here but you have way too much stuff on that primary DC comparing it to what I would normally do I would really make that DC a) redundant, b) at least 5 additional servers. I never put file shares on anything but by itself and would do the same thing for each of the management servers (WSUS, GFI, but most especially Symantec). I really hated having Symantec on with anything else it always was needing or doing something that I really did not like.
Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, David Mazzaccaro < david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote: > David: of the physical servers, if you had your druthers and could isolate > the tasks out to an individual server, how many servers would you > really have? Or are all those servers only doing one task, already?**** > > Well, my first Domain Controller (up until last week, was my ONLY DC) is > doing all this:**** > > Windows Server 2003 Standard SP2**** > > Domain Controller (holds all 5 FSMO roles)**** > > Global Catalog**** > > DNS**** > > WSUS **** > > File Shares (My Documents redirection, all shared drives)**** > > GFI Vipre Antimalware server**** > > Symantec Backup Exec 10d **** > > ** ** > > The remaining boxes are pretty much dedicated:**** > > BES (dedicated)**** > > OWA (dedicated)**** > > Exchange 2003 (dedicated)**** > > 3 Citrix 4.0 servers (dedicated)**** > > SCO UNIX billing server (dedicated)**** > > MAS200 (also Citrix licensing server, web interface server, terminal > services profile storage)**** > > Document imaging (also my 2nd DC, and print server)**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:49 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: New to virtualization**** > > ** ** > > If I were doing licensing from scratch, I'd go Datacenter, even accounting > for the CPU licensing, it's not all that much more. The ability to add and > move servers, "thinly" provision servers, etc makes a a much more robust > environment.**** > > **** > > When I say thinly provision servers, I mean, making a server responsible > for only one task, such as AV management, BES, whatever, without putting > additional duties on it as is common in a physical server environment.**** > > **** > > David: of the physical servers, if you had your druthers and could isolate > the tasks out to an individual server, how many servers would you > really have? Or are all those servers only doing one task, already?**** > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ralph Smith <m...@gatewayindustries.org> > wrote:**** > > “However, if I went w/ 3 Windows Datacenter licenses, for a small > increase in price - I would get unlimited VMs? “**** > > Datacenter is licensed per CPU – those are dual CPU servers so you would > need 6 Datacenter licenses.**** > > **** > > *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04 AM**** > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* New to virtualization**** > > **** > > Hi all,**** > > I am starting to investigate moving our aging network infrastructure into > the virtual world.**** > > ~ 10 servers, 6-7 years old**** > > Windows 2003 domain**** > > Exchange 2003 **** > > Citrix 4.0 farm**** > > ~190 users**** > > After some initial discussions w/ a reseller, here’s what they are > recommending:**** > > (3) DL 380 G7 servers (to host the VMs) ~$18,000**** > > (1) Net App FAS2240 (this is the SAN that would host 12 600GB drives of > storage for the VMs) ~$20,000**** > > VMWare essentials plus kit (VMware software) ~$5200**** > > (3) MS Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise (this would allow the 3 HP servers to > run 4 Windows 2008 VMs each)**** > > I guess the way it would work is that the VMs would reside on the SAN, and the > 3 hosts would call up the SAN to load each VM utilizing the host’s CPU, > RAM, NIC, etc.)… right?**** > > I have meetings scheduled w/ 2 other vendors, but verbally both have > started the conversation along the same path as above.**** > > Being very new to VM, does the above scenario seem to make sense? **** > > It is hard for me to imagine all that traffic going between the SAN and > the host servers w/o creating a huge bottleneck (over gig Ethernet)**** > > Do people recommend virtualizing every server? **** > > Domain controllers? Exchange? Citrix farm (4 server)?**** > > Shouldn’t something be left physical?**** > > Is 7 TB of storage enough (probably only 3 usable after array config)? ** > ** > > Is the net app a decent appliance? $20k sounds cheap to me…**** > > I have done a little more reading, and from what I understand w/ 3 Windows > Enterprise licenses, I would be limiting myself to 12 VMs.**** > > However, if I went w/ 3 Windows Datacenter licenses, for a small increase > in price - I would get unlimited VMs? **** > > Which would allow for actually having a testing environment, and better > patch deployment?**** > > Thx**** > > > .**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ** ** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > . > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
