You Guys and gals giggle about it. I'm still in a good mood. No hard feelings. Think about the CONTENT I gave you and you can hat tip me later.
I'm not going anywhere unless you ban me. I don't think you will nor do I think you have reason to. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: > Folks, not only is Cynicalgeek an expert in legal and educational areas, he's > also now proven to be 31337! > > On Mar 14, 2012 3:49 PM, "Cynicalgeek" <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yea, like pointing out the fact that the moderators of this LISTSERV are > doing it wrong. > > The LISTSERV can't keep up with the traffic. > > There's no security whatsoever on the accounts of members of these lists. > > Go ahead, go log in as anybody that you want to, change their password, their > name, and their Email address. Heck, sign them up for other mailing lists if > you want. > > Do you need ANY OTHER REASON to move the list? > > BTW, you're welcome for pointing that out to everybody. > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> > wrote: > In the absence of updates and information rumors and dark thoughts grow... > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> > wrote: > Cynical as I am I wouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to poor > software or a configuration problem :) > From: Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 March 2012 2:17 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: List Speed? > > I'd rather have fast list response and associated griping than the current > situation. > > My cynical mind? GFI doesn't want to maintain the lists, or at least not do > it for free. Sunbelt built a lot of goodwill by hosting the list and getting > free advertising out of it. Since GFI has taken over, I see very little > marketing to the lists, so I can't help but wonder if the lists are just > being squeeze out. That's me. I'm a cynical guy. > > Note, it's not unreasonable for GFI to not want to continue hosting the list. > They don't owe us anything. However, the reverse is true. And a lot of > goodwill will end up getting trashed if the list response time isn't fixed, > and it continues to hobble along like this for a while. I'm saying, in > response to Richard's post, that I am willing to pay a little money for > continued access to this community. I don't mind the OT posts, and a > moderator can always step in and say, cool it, whether it is "free" or > subscriber sponsored > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com> wrote: > Yeah, but then everyone would feel justified in griping about OT posts. (I’m > paying good money for this?!?!) > > > > -Paul > > > > From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:54 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: List Speed? > > > I’d be in for an annual fee. The (useful and applicable) knowledge I’ve > gained participating in this list far outweighs any other source I’ve been > exposed to, ever. > > > > Regards, > > > > Don Guyer > > Directory and Messaging Services > Catholic Health East, ITSS > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:57 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: List Speed? > > > I'd pay. Even annually. The utility of this list is approaching nil. Yeah, > I go off-topic, I admit it. Find a frequent contributor who doesn't... > > > > Waiting 4 or more hours for a reply, seeing multiple postings about the same > item (Dell acquiring Sonicwall) is something I can do without. > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Stovall <rich...@gmail.com> wrote: > > <$.02> > > > > It's a disaster anymore. Throw in something like the BBQ discussion, or any > other topic which generates a lot of traffic, and it's all over for hours. > Why this has persisted for so long is incomprehensible to me. > > > > I realize that the lists are a free service, and I am truly, truly grateful > for them. And the simple matter of the fact is that they're just not working > very effectively anymore. > > > > My vote is to either kill the lists or fix them.* I think a lot of people > would be somewhat saddened to see the Sunbelt lists go away after all this > time, but I also feel confident that most everyone would resubscribe > somewhere else pretty darn quickly if an alternative presented itself and was > made known to all the members. > > > > * Would I pay a voluntary one-time fee of $5 or $10 to help defray the cost > of upgrading friggin' Lyris? Yes. Yes I would. > > > > </$.02> > > > > 2012/3/13 Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> > > Did we ever get anywhere with list speed? > > > > A post today took an hour to show up (and before I started to receive any > out-of-office replies so that's not just the time taken to make it to my > Inbox). > > > > I know there was a thread that mentioned issues with a Lyris "upgrade", but I > don't remember seeing anything beyond that? > > > > Respectfully, the delays are really starting to make me think twice about > posting as I find myself thinking "It'll take an hour to appear, someone will > have already responded by then". > > MIRA Ltd > > > > Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England > > Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 > > VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 > > > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of > the intended recipient. 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