You Guys and gals giggle about it.  I'm still in a good mood. No hard feelings. 
 Think about the CONTENT I gave you and you can hat tip me later. 

I'm not going anywhere unless you ban me.  I don't think you will nor do I 
think you have reason to.  

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On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Folks, not only is Cynicalgeek an expert in legal and educational areas, he's 
> also now proven to be 31337!
> 
> On Mar 14, 2012 3:49 PM, "Cynicalgeek" <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yea, like pointing out the fact that the moderators of this LISTSERV are 
> doing it wrong.
> 
> The LISTSERV can't keep up with the traffic.
> 
> There's no security whatsoever on the accounts of members of these lists.
> 
> Go ahead, go log in as anybody that you want to, change their password, their 
> name, and their Email address.  Heck, sign them up for other mailing lists if 
> you want.
> 
> Do you need ANY OTHER REASON to move the list?
> 
> BTW, you're welcome for pointing that out to everybody.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> In the absence of updates and information rumors and dark thoughts grow...
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> Cynical as I am I wouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to poor 
> software or a configuration problem :)
> From: Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 14 March 2012 2:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: List Speed?
> 
> I'd rather have fast list response and associated griping than the current 
> situation.
>  
> My cynical mind?  GFI doesn't want to maintain the lists, or at least not do 
> it for free.  Sunbelt built a lot of goodwill by hosting the list and getting 
> free advertising out of it.  Since GFI has taken over, I see very little 
> marketing to the lists, so I can't help but wonder if the lists are just 
> being squeeze out.  That's me.  I'm a cynical guy.
>  
> Note, it's not unreasonable for GFI to not want to continue hosting the list. 
>  They don't owe us anything.  However, the reverse is true.  And a lot of 
> goodwill will end up getting trashed if the list response time isn't fixed, 
> and it continues to hobble along like this for a while.  I'm saying, in 
> response to Richard's post, that I am willing to pay a little money for 
> continued access to this community.  I don't mind the OT posts, and a 
> moderator can always step in and say, cool it, whether it is "free" or 
> subscriber sponsored
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com> wrote:
> Yeah, but then everyone would feel justified in griping about OT posts.  (I’m 
> paying good money for this?!?!)
> 
>  
> 
> -Paul
> 
>  
> 
> From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:54 AM
> 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: List Speed?
>  
> 
> I’d be in for an annual fee. The (useful and applicable) knowledge I’ve 
> gained participating in this list far outweighs any other source I’ve been 
> exposed to, ever.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Directory and Messaging Services
> Catholic Health East, ITSS
> 
>  
> 
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:57 PM
> 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: List Speed?
>  
> 
> I'd pay.  Even annually.  The utility of this list is approaching nil.  Yeah, 
> I go off-topic, I admit it.  Find a frequent contributor who doesn't...
> 
>  
> 
> Waiting 4 or more hours for a reply, seeing multiple postings about the same 
> item (Dell acquiring Sonicwall) is something I can do without.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Stovall <rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> <$.02> 
> 
>  
> 
> It's a disaster anymore.  Throw in something like the BBQ discussion, or any 
> other topic which generates a lot of traffic, and it's all over for hours.  
> Why this has persisted for so long is incomprehensible to me.
> 
>  
> 
> I realize that the lists are a free service, and I am truly, truly grateful 
> for them.  And the simple matter of the fact is that they're just not working 
> very effectively anymore.
> 
>  
> 
> My vote is to either kill the lists or fix them.*  I think a lot of people 
> would be somewhat saddened to see the Sunbelt lists go away after all this 
> time, but I also feel confident that most everyone would resubscribe 
> somewhere else pretty darn quickly if an alternative presented itself and was 
> made known to all the members.
> 
>  
> 
> * Would I pay a voluntary one-time fee of $5 or $10 to help defray the cost 
> of upgrading friggin' Lyris?  Yes.  Yes I would.
> 
>  
> 
> </$.02>
> 
>  
> 
> 2012/3/13 Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>
> 
> Did we ever get anywhere with list speed?
> 
>  
> 
> A post today took an hour to show up (and before I started to receive any 
> out-of-office replies so that's not just the time taken to make it to my 
> Inbox).
> 
>  
> 
> I know there was a thread that mentioned issues with a Lyris "upgrade", but I 
> don't remember seeing anything beyond that?
> 
>  
> 
> Respectfully, the delays are really starting to make me think twice about 
> posting as I find myself thinking "It'll take an hour to appear, someone will 
> have already responded by then".
> 
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