A cynical person should've foreseen this occurring. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Cynicalgeek <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And now somebody is filling out forms in my name and having local business > call me for their services. > > Real pros on here. > > First porn, now you're making my phone ring with bogus requests. > > Real pros. > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Doug Hampshire <dhampsh...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Don't make me stop this car. Because I will and you can just sit there >> until you learn to behave. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jonathan Link >> <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Aww, but dad, we were having so much fun! >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Doug Hampshire <dhampsh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I disconcur (unconcur, misconcur?) Over my also very long association >>>> with this and other techie lists (especially Peter's old Exchange list) >>>> I've found many, many things being taken offlist. Of course IIRC almost all >>>> of those things have involved consuming copious amount of adult beverages >>>> (and yes, we have actually caused certain bars to run out of specific >>>> brands of said beverages). Some of those offlist contacts have become >>>> lifelong friends (even unto death, RIP JRH, Mr. Houge, and Mr. Southworth). >>>> I've also worked with many of the same people either directly (various list >>>> members have worked for me before) or via various consulting arrangements. >>>> >>>> That being said, there are no "masters" here. There is no secret cabal. >>>> I've only seen personal types of comments when A) they are actually good >>>> friends with the person and are just yanking their chain, or B) that person >>>> has been such a douche bag that it appears that it's the only way to get >>>> them to listen (most still don't). >>>> >>>> Being a "real" person here has had a significant impact on my personal >>>> and professional life. If you think how you conduct yourself on some techie >>>> list doesn't matter, you are sadly mistaken. The good news is pretty much >>>> everyone I've personally encountered here and on other tech lists (probably >>>> 50-75 people) are very forgiving and welcoming people. My recommendation is >>>> to be a Real Person (tm) and consider the feedback people give you. It also >>>> helps if you buy a round when you do meet list members in person. (For >>>> those that are not adept at grasping the scope of my advice here, I'm NOT >>>> speaking to Mr. Harris. I'm addressing multiple other offenders here. I >>>> just happened to pick his message to reply to.) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking >>>>> anything beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on >>>>> the >>>>> list being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual >>>>> usually then it help of some kind not attacks. >>>>> >>>>> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time. >>>>> >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin >>>>> <kz2...@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very >>>>>> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to >>>>>> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, >>>>>> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. >>>>>> I >>>>>> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend >>>>>> to >>>>>> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and >>>>>> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do >>>>>> that, >>>>>> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signature will soon be gone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> JR >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it >>>>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other >>>>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me. But....whatever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. >>>>>>> However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the >>>>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it. The "masters" find enjoyment in >>>>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) >>>>>>> call >>>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack >>>>>>> (verbally) in >>>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism >>>>>>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> using my real name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link < >>>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I >>>>>>>> tend to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, >>>>>>>> those are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr >>>>>>>> Rankin's >>>>>>>> long? Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my >>>>>>>> attention, either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin >>>>>>>> trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are. >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek <cynicalg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first >>>>>>>>> and last name. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long >>>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask >>>>>>>>> users not >>>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the >>>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list >>>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many >>>>>>>>>>> beers tonight sir. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv >>>>>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been >>>>>>>>>>>> completed >>>>>>>>>>>> with references included! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger < >>>>>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a >>>>>>>>>>>>> cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: list delays >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' >>>>>>>>>>>>> email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries < >>>>>>>>>>>>> nt...@hedgedigger.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be >>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed or ditch lyris. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource >>>>>>>>>>>>> hog! 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