What it reinforces to me is the necessity of user education - being
explicit with them that "Yes, passphrases are better than passwords, but
make sure you don't include too many personal details, and make sure it's a
real sentence with some real punctuation in it, among other things"

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:49, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's an implementation problem.
>
> If I choose a passphrase of "Mary had a little lamb" then of course that
> will be relatively weak as passphrases go.  That that is not an inherent
> weakness of passphrases, but of people.
>
> Lots of things are undermined by poor choices.   Completely random 20
> character passwords with a unicode character set are undermined by having
> them posted on sticky notes.
>
> We didn't need a whole article to point that out.
>
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> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginally-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices.ars
>>
>> By Dan Goodin
>> Ars Technica
>> March 14, 2012
>>
>> Passwords that contain multiple words aren't as resistant as some
>> researchers expected to certain types of cracking attacks, mainly
>> because users frequently pick phrases that occur regularly in everyday
>> speech, a recently published paper concludes.
>>
>> Security managers have long regarded passphrases as an
>> easy-to-remember way to pack dozens of characters into the string that
>> must be entered to access online accounts or to unlock private
>> encryption keys. The more characters, the thinking goes, the harder it
>> is for attackers to guess or otherwise crack the code, since there are
>> orders of magnitude more possible combinations.
>>
>> But a pair of computer scientists from Cambridge University has found
>> that a significant percentage of passphrases used in a real-world
>> scenario were easy to guess. Using a dictionary containing 20,656
>> phrases of movie titles, sports team names, and other proper nouns,
>> they were able to find about 8,000 passphrases chosen by users of
>> Amazon's now-defunct PayPhrase system. That's an estimated 1.13
>> percent of the available accounts. The promise of passphrases'
>> increased entropy, it seems, was undone by many users' tendency to
>> pick phrases that are staples of the everyday lexicon.
>>
>> "Our results suggest that users aren't able to choose phrases made of
>> completely random words, but are influenced by the probability of a
>> phrase occurring in natural language," researchers Joseph Bonneau and
>> Ekaterina Shutova wrote in the paper (PDF), which is titled
>> "Linguistic properties of multi-word passphrases." "Examining the
>> surprisingly weak distribution of phrases in natural language, we can
>> conclude that even 4-word phrases probably provide less than 30 bits
>> of security which is insufficient against offline attack," the paper
>> says.
>>
>> [...]
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