Agreed. Just pointing out that in an office with doors and walls and other 
various physical security measures, sticky note passwords aren't *necessarily* 
as horrible an idea as we like to joke about.

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From: Andrew S. Baker
Sent: 3/15/2012 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Worth some consideration...

I'd rather not accept a false dilemma.

There is no reason to have either of the options presented, as both are bad.


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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Crawford, Scott 
<crawfo...@evangel.edu<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
I'd rather have "good" passwords written down on a sticky note accessible only 
to a limited number of coworkers than "bad" passwords that can be exploited by 
any black-hat on the internet.

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From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG
Sent: 3/15/2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Worth some consideration...


Wait… I’m NOT supposed to write my password on a sticky note?  How am I 
supposed to let my coworker use my login, then?

Joe Heaton
ITB – Windows Server Support

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:49 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Worth some consideration...

That's an implementation problem.

If I choose a passphrase of "Mary had a little lamb" then of course that will 
be relatively weak as passphrases go.  That that is not an inherent weakness of 
passphrases, but of people.

Lots of things are undermined by poor choices.   Completely random 20 character 
passwords with a unicode character set are undermined by having them posted on 
sticky notes.

We didn't need a whole article to point that out.

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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Kurt Buff 
<kurt.b...@gmail.com<mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginally-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices.ars

By Dan Goodin
Ars Technica
March 14, 2012

Passwords that contain multiple words aren't as resistant as some
researchers expected to certain types of cracking attacks, mainly
because users frequently pick phrases that occur regularly in everyday
speech, a recently published paper concludes.

Security managers have long regarded passphrases as an
easy-to-remember way to pack dozens of characters into the string that
must be entered to access online accounts or to unlock private
encryption keys. The more characters, the thinking goes, the harder it
is for attackers to guess or otherwise crack the code, since there are
orders of magnitude more possible combinations.

But a pair of computer scientists from Cambridge University has found
that a significant percentage of passphrases used in a real-world
scenario were easy to guess. Using a dictionary containing 20,656
phrases of movie titles, sports team names, and other proper nouns,
they were able to find about 8,000 passphrases chosen by users of
Amazon's now-defunct PayPhrase system. That's an estimated 1.13
percent of the available accounts. The promise of passphrases'
increased entropy, it seems, was undone by many users' tendency to
pick phrases that are staples of the everyday lexicon.

"Our results suggest that users aren't able to choose phrases made of
completely random words, but are influenced by the probability of a
phrase occurring in natural language," researchers Joseph Bonneau and
Ekaterina Shutova wrote in the paper (PDF), which is titled
"Linguistic properties of multi-word passphrases." "Examining the
surprisingly weak distribution of phrases in natural language, we can
conclude that even 4-word phrases probably provide less than 30 bits
of security which is insufficient against offline attack," the paper
says.

[...]


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