Big picture: For the same money, you can build from new desktop parts something that outperforms your example of an old server, and reduce your KWH hit as well. That makes it a win-win for BYOPC vs. buy an old server as long as the desktop parts are selected carefully.
Carl From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Is fifty cents a day a reasonable investment in ones ongoing education????? Just like buying a hybrid car, investing in a new more efficient machine rarely makes good financial sense. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server What's the definition of "pennies a day"? If a server uses 200W and is left on 24x7, that's ~ $14/month, which is less than $1/day but not what I'd call pennies a day. Older Intel technology wasn't known for being power friendly, so 200W may be on the low side. A modern quad desktop with a couple 7200 rpm drives easily uses less than 100W when idle, so that would qualify for my definition of "pennies a day". Carl From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Electricity for a single low use server is pennies a day, the more drives you spin the higher the bill no matter what case you put it in and no it isn't workstation quiet but I wouldn't expect it to be. As he'd be doing remote management for the most part the server can go anywhere there is an ethernet connection. If you want to "play around" with virtualization build a workstation, if you want to learn and test in something close to a real world environment buy a used server. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server It isn't quiet or low powered, though... On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: OR you can just buy a used Dell Poweredge 2950 for $400-$600 with a raid controller, multiple drives and CPU's and gobs of memory and be done with it. I can assure you it's on the VMWare HCL and most likely Microsoft's and Citrix's as well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-2x-Intel-R-Xeon-R-CPU-5120-1-86-D ual-Core-6-x-300GB-/160776821444?pt=COMP_EN_Servers <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-2x-Intel-R-Xeon-R-CPU-5120-1-86- Dual-Core-6-x-300GB-/160776821444?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item256f0b9ac4> &hash=item256f0b9ac4 John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 <tel:%28352%29%20244-1610> Cell (352) 215-6944 <tel:%28352%29%20215-6944> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Wow, 8 cores for a home/lab server? That's a little extravagant, isn't it? 4 cores is fine for a handful of VMs, and quad AMD Phenom's can be had for < $100 when on sale. Don't really need the graphics that's bundled into the FX CPUs, and AM3 motherboards are cheaper as well. Carl From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Strictly for home lab use: MB <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1 963472&CatId=7248> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=19 63472&CatId=7248 $84 Memory <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1 874822&CatId=4534> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=18 74822&CatId=4534 HD <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7 331904&CatId=4357> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=73 31904&CatId=4357 $99 CPU <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1 239958&CatId=7341> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=12 39958&CatId=7341 $189 Case <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7 328068&CatId=1509> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=73 28068&CatId=1509 $69 Using these components you could get the following: 32G RAM 3TB in RAID 5 array across 4 spindles Total cost $954. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CD11B3.9DF63930 The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America <http://www.guardianlife.com/> www.guardianlife.com From: "Jimmy Tran" <jt...@teachtci.com> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Date: 04/02/2012 06:26 PM Subject: recommendations on home server _____ I'm in need of a decent home server to run ESX-I to run SBS, W7 and some other test VM's. My budget is preferably around $500-$1k. Looking for lots of processing power but low powered (if possible), RAID on the drives, decent amount of ram. Don't know where to start..can someone recommend something? 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