I'll see your 1994 and raise you a 1992

(netware 2.x on a Compaq Deskpro)

+1 on your I/O observations !!!

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com>wrote:

>  > (I’ve been running a server at home since 2001)****
>
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>
> I’ll see your 2001, and raise you a 1994.****
>
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>
> I do agree that generally you don’t’ need huge amounts of CPU over the
> long-haul average (I mean who really cares if your home mail server for 3
> people takes 5 seconds to deliver an email instead of 2?), but when you do
> decide to do some admin work on a box, etc… I’m not sure a dual-proc Atom
> is going to be fun…. You must be a patient man. J****
>
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>
> One of the things that I have found with home usage is that even though
> CPU needs may be relatively low, I/O and storage needs may still need to be
> relatively significant. Pushing media files around the house, or moving
> .vmdk/.vhd files around on lower-end NICs or storage controllers sucks.***
> *
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> -sc****
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>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:57 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: recommendations on home server****
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> Respectfully disagree.****
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> I used to have servers like this, but they are loud and generate a lot of
> heat. Living in Singapore with 30+ C temperatures (90F) means cooling is an
> issue.****
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> VM for home environments generally don’t use a lot of CPU in my experience
> (I’ve been running a server at home since 2001). I’ve got a HP Proliant
> Microserver which effectively has a dual-core Atom CPU running 2 x DCs,
> Exchange 2010, Windows Home Server, Forefront TMG 2010, PKI/Print and WSUS
> all on a single box. And the CPU is rarely above 10%. ****
>
> I used to have a dual quad-core Xeon dell server, and the CPU on that was
> rarely above 1% - it just generated a lot of heat and noise for no reason.
> ****
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> Cheers****
>
> Ken****
>
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> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 April 2012 1:09 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: recommendations on home server****
>
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> I have a 2950 at home (just as an example) and have never suffered any
> need to modify the electrical circuit. There are ways of isolating the
> noise but any fan is going to generate noise.  Irritates women – I’ll have
> to keep that handy in case I need to get rid of one!****
>
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> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:52 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: recommendations on home server****
>
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> Those things are loud.  I have discovered my wife gets irrate with one of
> those things on in the house.  As I live in a part of California where
> temperatures get to 115 degrees F the garage isn't an option.  Also some of
> those 'real' servers end up requiring a 20 or 30 amp circuit as well.****
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote:****
>
> OR you can just buy a used Dell Poweredge 2950 for $400-$600 with a raid
> controller, multiple drives and CPU’s and gobs of memory and be done with
> it. I can assure you it’s on the VMWare HCL and most likely Microsoft’s and
> Citrix’s as well.****
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-2x-Intel-R-Xeon-R-CPU-5120-1-86-Dual-Core-6-x-300GB-/160776821444?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item256f0b9ac4
> ****
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> *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:18 PM****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues****
>
> *Subject:* RE: recommendations on home server****
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>  ****
>
> Wow, 8 cores for a home/lab server?  That's a little extravagant, isn't
> it?  4 cores is fine for a handful of VMs, and quad AMD Phenom's can be had
> for < $100 when on sale.  Don't really need the graphics that's bundled
> into the FX CPUs, and AM3 motherboards are cheaper as well.****
>
>  ****
>
> Carl****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:13 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: recommendations on home server****
>
>  ****
>
> Strictly for home lab use:
>
> MB
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1963472&CatId=7248
> $84
>
> Memory
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1874822&CatId=4534
>
> HD
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7331904&CatId=4357
> $99
>
> CPU
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1239958&CatId=7341
> $189
>
> Case
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7328068&CatId=1509
> $69
>
>
> Using these components you could get the following:
>
> 32G RAM
> 3TB in RAID 5 array across 4 spindles
>
> Total cost $954. ****
>
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>
> From:        "Jimmy Tran" <jt...@teachtci.com>
> To:        "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
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> Date:        04/02/2012 06:26 PM
> Subject:        recommendations on home server ****
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> I’m in need of a decent home server to run ESX-I to run SBS, W7 and some
> other test VM’s.  My budget is preferably around $500-$1k.  Looking for
> lots of processing power but low powered (if possible), RAID on the drives,
> decent amount of ram.  Don’t know where to start….can someone recommend
> something?
>
> Jimmy
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