Your hyper-v host is fubar'd and you need to log into it. Your DC is hosted on 
that VM host....so you can't log in. You can certainly build it to avoid that 
problem, but that is why some people say keep one physical DC. For example you 
can have your hyper-v host not be in the domain. Or if you have multiple hyper 
hosts spread out your DC's.

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things...
1) ALWAYS keep a single DC physical.  You can certainly have virtual DCs, but 
you must have at least 1 physical.
2) Virtualize everything you can. You don't need any physical boxes at all.  
Period.

Thoughts?


From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

>> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V 
>> boxes individually?

No, you don't have to back them up individually.   Lots of 3rd party options 
here.


>> No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a "fun" 
>> situation if you have to power everything off and on again.

Your Hyper-V server need not be a domain member.

ASB

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Paul Hutchings 
<paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk<mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
I've only used VMware so I'm more than happy to be corrected here, but in no 
particular order:

Single ISO takes you from bare metal to working server.
No third party drivers needed for things like MPIO and NIC teaming.
Single management tool.
Single management server (vCenter) gives visibility to your entire VMware 
infrastructure.
Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V boxes 
individually?
No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a "fun" 
situation if you have to power everything off and on again.

Outside of usability you then have:

Pretty much any virtual appliance you care to name will come natively in 
VMDK/OVF format
Tons of vCenter add-ins

I'm very interested in Hyper-V with Windows Server 8 and for us the timing 
falls nicely with our SAN and server refresh, but honestly the only reason I 
can see for looking at moving would be license costs - VMware works out 
expensive if you have more than a few hosts and want more than the basics.
________________________________________
From: John Hornbuckle 
[john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
Sent: 16 April 2012 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

Is the consensus that VMware is easier to use than Hyper-V?

I've only used the latter, so I can't judge.



John


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk<mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

I'd assume ease of use and market leader.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini 
frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you choosing 
VMware over Hyper-V?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>



----- Original Message -----
From: David Mazzaccaro
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com<mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com>]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012
08:38:47 -0700
Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!


> Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade.
> I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the
solution:
>
> 3 hosts: ($21k each)
> HP DL380 G7 E5660
> Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored
> 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone
> Quad port gig adapter
>
> 2 Switches: ($1,800 each)
> HP 2910
>
> 1 SAN ($22,700)
> NetApp 2240
> 12 x 600GB
>
> VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200)
>
> 6 Windows licenses ($13,600):
> Server 2008 Datacenter
>
> Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000)
>
> $40k services
> Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008
> Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers
>
> Total: $185,000
>
> Sound good?

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