TMI Jonathan. I didn't need that scenario to think about on a Friday,
Yuck!
 

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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Switch Purchase Question...



Brings new meaning to the phrase knowledge dump.


On Feb 1, 2008 11:20 AM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



        Then you should have no trouble gaining some of that knowledge
while you are there.

         

        From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:13 AM 

        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Switch Purchase Question...

        

        

         

         

        Don stores it all a lil farther south than his head Tom.

         

        From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:51 AM 

        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Switch Purchase Question...

        

        

         

         

        Not everybody has a BIGHEAD like you Don to store all that
information.

         

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        From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:43 AM 

        To: NT System Admin Issues
        
        Subject: Re: Switch Purchase Question...

        

        
        GUI's are for the unskilled...

        On Feb 1, 2008 6:50 AM, Andy Shook
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Dell in these
discussions.  I've
        used Dell switches in stacked and single deployments and have
enjoyed
        great success with all the managed products.  When I was running
the IT
        department for that law firm (from Hell), I had a Cisco core and
Dell in
        all my access-layer closets and all branch offices and it was a
rock
        solid setup.  My only beef with Dell is that the CLI is just
different
        enough from Cisco to piss you off.  Example, you can't just type
'sh
        run' you have to type "show running-config".  However, the web
mgmt
        applet was easy-peasy to use.
        
        Shook
        http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

        
        

         -----Original Message-----
        From: kenw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:41 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Switch Purchase Question...
        
        I use HP nearly all the time now.
        
        While Cisco gear is good, unless you're doing a fairly large
        implementation, the time it can take to get them configured
right can be
        expensive.  I had a situation a while ago, due to Cisco's
default
        configuration for bridge discovery, that caused a lot of hassle.
An XP
        box behind another switch had defaulted to bridge mode, the
Cisco saw
        it, panicked, and disconnected the port, causing a whole section
of the
        network to "go dark".  Took a few times to figure out what was
        happening.  My complaint is that neither Cisco nor Microsoft had
any
        documented recognition of the issue, nor any recommendation on
how to
        deal with it, and the support wasn't much help.
        
        A caution on the HPs, though: they've brought out some new,
low-cost,
        semi-managed switches that I've put where I can't do anything
else.
        They're still pretty green, don't cluster, and are generally
        feature-poor.  There's an undocumented "feature" wherein if you
use
        ports 1 and 2 for a trunk, and there's a power cycle, they will
reset to
        factory defaults.  Also, I'm seeing a lot of compatibility
issues with
        low cost gigabit PC NICs, wherein they don't negotiate
speed/duplex/etc.
        properly, and users with gigabit cards start running at 100MB
with truly
        crappy performance.  They seem to be happy with Intel NICs,
FWIW.  HP's
        bringing new firmware out for them fairly often.
        
        /kenw

        

        

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