The client calls the "package" or "sequence" that you put together using the App-V Sequencer (similar to a Citrix profiler). This sequence is a capture of the installation which then streams all the files, folders, reg keys, etc. down to the client and runs the app. You can run this stream from a file share like you said, or through http or native App-V from a management server. If you need a run-down of the features of the various streams versus running it through SMB from a file share, I might have to get on to an App-V MVP of my acquaintance. But on good SAN links the SMB approach seems to work very efficiently for me.
---Blackberried -----Original Message----- From: Harry Singh <hbo...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:24:37 To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>Subject: Re: A question about Virtualization That's an eye opener, thanks James. So the client on the server simply calls the installation binaries that exist on that same server or a shared folder that could sit on the SAN ? Not having to install applications on Citirix servers is a MAJOR plus. And as you mentioned, the Citrix Streaming Profiler is just not a real elegant/easy solution, in my opinion. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Rankin, James R <kz2...@googlemail.com>wrote: > ** > Its the packaging. To run an app thru Citrix it needs to be installed on a > Citrix server. If it is delivered via App-V all you need is the client on > the server, which can then run hundreds or thousands of apps without any of > them needing to be installed. They are also self-contained - you can run > apps that don't "get on" alongside each other without issue. The main > benefit of App-V for me is in image management - no need to update or > maintain software on hundreds of Citrix servers. Just put the App-V client > and Citrix Receiver in the base image and all your apps are effectively > already installed and ready for use. > ---Blackberried > ------------------------------ > *From: * Harry Singh <hbo...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:34:13 -0500 > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" < > ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > *Subject: *Re: A question about Virtualization > > Hopping on here late, but there isn't a local software client needed to > get APP-V to deliver apps? What's the benefit of deploying an App-V > application vs a published App via XenApp? I feel like I'm missing a key > difference here because if you're a Citrix shop what are you missing by not > using App-V ? > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com>wrote: > >> I haven't done much ThinApp, to be fair. How easy is it to package stuff >> up? I find App-V dead easy, but then again it was the first thing I used >> for it. My other main packaging experience was with Citrix Streaming, and >> that ain't great at all. >> >> One thing I will say for App-V is that it's dead easy to deliver it >> through Citrix if you've got that kind of layered infrastructure. You don't >> even need the App-V streaming conduit - you just point a published app to >> the App-V client and add the right switches, and you can deliver the App-V >> stuff right through the Citrix plugins like an normal installed app. >> >> App-V also integrates nicely with AppSense and particularly their >> Personalization Server piece, which makes it another popular choice for the >> kind of deployments I do. >> >> I was just wondering how far the OP is wanting to take their entire >> "virtualization" strategy? Certainly once you get into the deeper parts of >> profile and application virtualization you can put together a solution >> based around a vast amount of different combinations of technologies rather >> than the more limited options available on a server or desktop >> virtualization level. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> JR >> >> On 6 November 2012 16:39, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: >> >>> I mostly agree with James with the exception of App-V, VMWare Thinapp >>> requires no local client to run packages so IMHO it’s a cleaner >>> distribution package. >>> >>> >>> >>> *John W. 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