I am K-12 so a different setup probably......but just to get you thinking.

Do you have your own student information system? That contains everything you 
need I would think. Ours  lists all the students, grade, school and student ID 
number.  It is maintained in part by the State, our enrollment office and 
administrative staff. But it is complete and ready to go.  We just export that 
info and powershell create the accounts.

During the school year as students transfer in Media Techs (librarians) have a 
limited ADUC to create new student login accounts. Their home folders 
self-create. Media Techs can also change passwords, reset lockouts. I 
transitioned us to this about 4 years ago. It was a non-event and works well.

I could take it a step further and do an auto export every night from the 
student information system and script deletions and new users but for the few 
we get it is not worth it. At the end of the school year I mass delete and 
start over fresh.

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

Good to know.
Now, the other biggie for use, user account management.
We don't yet have an automated way to create/delete the accounts.
Richmond is working on a system for that, but the vendor they contracted wants 
mega bucks to set up our server to sync with their domain.


From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

Yeah ... For all the universities I've worked at and had this discussion, this 
perceived problem has never morphed into an actual issue.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState


"........ how do you handle situations where students don't logout before they 
leave...... then student 2 has access to student 1's account."

Self-correcting problem.  Student 2 deletes all of Students 1's stuff and 
Student 1 never does it again. With 7,000 students we have very little trouble 
with this issue actually.

Also we set inactivity timeouts so they auto log out.

I would not go with generic accounts. There is no accountability, no tracking 
of what they do....


From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

No on the student login.  We use a generic account per classroom.
We've talked about moving to a individual student login, but I'm not sure we 
need or want that.
For others that have gone that route, how do you handle situations where 
students don't logout before they leave.
You either have a locked computer, logged on as said student or if not locked, 
then student 2 has access to student 1's account.

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

Sure so scenarios where you're teaching classes that require changes to the OS 
to accomplish the class makes good sense and I'd not argue against a solution 
like DeepFreeze in that case.

In the case of things like wallpaper and user profile stuff, are you not using 
named user accounts for your students? That solves a bunch of this on the spot.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

We teach classes and let the students make any and all changes to the desktop 
environment.
Here's one example.  Student comes in and sets the desktop wallpaper to his 
favorite pinup gal.  Next student doesn't like it, but is a beginner and 
doesn't know how to change it to something else.  Reboot and the pin up gal is 
gone.
Also, I've seen some programs/apps that can now be installed without admin 
rights, Google Chrome for example.
Not a problem with Deep Freeze.

I'm sure there are other ways to do this, but DeepFreeze works great in our 
environment.

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

I've worked at a lot of customers that use DeepFreeze and similar products and 
I'm not a huge fan of the concept in general. It makes the overall lifecycle 
maintenance of a desktop environment a heck of a lot more complicated.

The question I always pose (and usually don't get much of a response to), is 
"what problems/issues is DeepFreeze protecting you from that running as a local 
user wouldn't solve?"

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState

Not free, but we could not function at the school without DeepFreeze.

From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacement for SteadyState

Hello
I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState.
I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am 
replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down.

Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on 
reboot?

TIA
B


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