"........ how do you handle situations where students don't logout before they leave...... then student 2 has access to student 1's account."
Self-correcting problem. Student 2 deletes all of Students 1's stuff and Student 1 never does it again. With 7,000 students we have very little trouble with this issue actually. Also we set inactivity timeouts so they auto log out. I would not go with generic accounts. There is no accountability, no tracking of what they do.... From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState No on the student login. We use a generic account per classroom. We've talked about moving to a individual student login, but I'm not sure we need or want that. For others that have gone that route, how do you handle situations where students don't logout before they leave. You either have a locked computer, logged on as said student or if not locked, then student 2 has access to student 1's account. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState Sure so scenarios where you're teaching classes that require changes to the OS to accomplish the class makes good sense and I'd not argue against a solution like DeepFreeze in that case. In the case of things like wallpaper and user profile stuff, are you not using named user accounts for your students? That solves a bunch of this on the spot. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com> w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState We teach classes and let the students make any and all changes to the desktop environment. Here's one example. Student comes in and sets the desktop wallpaper to his favorite pinup gal. Next student doesn't like it, but is a beginner and doesn't know how to change it to something else. Reboot and the pin up gal is gone. Also, I've seen some programs/apps that can now be installed without admin rights, Google Chrome for example. Not a problem with Deep Freeze. I'm sure there are other ways to do this, but DeepFreeze works great in our environment. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState I've worked at a lot of customers that use DeepFreeze and similar products and I'm not a huge fan of the concept in general. It makes the overall lifecycle maintenance of a desktop environment a heck of a lot more complicated. The question I always pose (and usually don't get much of a response to), is "what problems/issues is DeepFreeze protecting you from that running as a local user wouldn't solve?" Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com> w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState Not free, but we could not function at the school without DeepFreeze. From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? 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