I'm no security expert, but here's a counterpoint on why Adobe Reader would be 
(in my mind) a bigger threat:

* Everybody opens PDFs every day. 
* There is no "did you want to open this" prompt for a PDF. 
* There is (as far as I know) no certificated PDF, or if there is, I have never 
seen it used.

The opposite is true for Java. 

* Java is used every day, but not nearly to the extent of PDF.
* Java will ask if you intended to open the plugin.
* Java does allow for signed certificates for validation.

I am not arguing which one is "worse," because I don't know. But the 
conversation is interesting to me.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Ziots, Edward
[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 16 Jan 2013
02:39:02 -0800
Subject: RE: FoxIT reader vulnerability


> By default yes Adobe renders PDF with Javascript, which allows both good and
> evil javascript to execute, as we all know the various flaws in adobe, this
> definitely leads to an attack vector which has been exploited time and time
> again. 
> 
> But seriously I still see Java as the bigger threat, and as others have said
> it will continue to be this for years to come. 
> 
> Z
> 
> Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
> Security Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> ezi...@lifespan.org
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:30 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability
> 
> Doesn't Adobe (and possibly other PDF viewers) include PDF rendering with
> javascript now?
> 
> I just want a "dumb" .pdf reader. Is it just me?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben Scott
> [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2013
> 14:46:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: FoxIT reader vulnerability
> 
> 
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Richard McClary 
> > <richard.mccl...@aspca.org> wrote:
> > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/11/foxit_pdf_plugin_vuln/
> > >
> > > Just now checked the FoxIT web site.  The currently offered version 
> > > is 5.4.4.1128, which the article mentions as being vulnerable (as 
> > > are older versions).
> > >
> > > May end up having to use Adobe anyway…
> > 
> >   I strongly suspect FoxIt licenses at least their core code from 
> > Adobe.  Many features and vulnerabilities seem to track on a 
> > one-to-one basis.
> > 
> >   FoxIt is a lot more lightweight, though, so it prolly has a smaller 
> > attack surface overall.  It may be they just don't include all the 
> > bloat that Adobe does.
> > 
> > -- Ben
> > 
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> > 
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> > 
> > 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Reply via email to