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*ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Richard McClary <richard.mccl...@aspca.org>wrote: > Thank you!**** > > ** ** > > --**** > > richard**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:46 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint & Juniper**** > > ** ** > > The SRX line is Juniper's enterprise line. The SSG is based on their > Netscreen acquisition many moons ago.**** > > ** ** > > The cost difference between those two platforms is not insignificant. My > personal experience is with the SSG family, and it will be the one that I > would expect to be more applicable to the original post.**** > > ** ** > > For the money of the SRX platform, I would go with one of the other > vendors...**** > > ** ** > > Compare the Fortigate 60C, for example, with the Juniper SRX210**** > > ** ** > > http://www.fortinet.com/products/fortigate/60C.html (look at the specs > tab)**** > > > http://www.juniper.net/as/en/products-services/security/srx-series/srx210/#specs > **** > > ** ** > > Similar pricing for the base models, but the Fortigate has a bit more > functionality at that price point, IMO.**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *ASB > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > for the SMB market…***** > > **** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Richard McClary < > richard.mccl...@aspca.org> wrote:**** > > Interesting, thanks!**** > > **** > > As for Juniper, might you have any opinions on the Juniper SRX line (uses > JunOS) vs the SSG line (uses ScreenOS)? I know the SRX has about 4 times > the throughput of the SSG line.**** > > **** > > Thanks again…**** > > --**** > > richard**** > > **** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint & Juniper > **** > > **** > > At the low to mid-range, Juniper (with their SSG line) is more than > price/feature competitive with CheckPoint, et al. Things get dicier when > you get up into the multi Gbit range, but for the scope of what was > requested, they are a good fit.**** > > **** > > Juniper messed up Netscreen from an organizational standpoint. That's why > some of them left (at the time of the acquisition) and formed Fortinet.*** > * > > **** > > PA is more feature rich than the others, but the pricing is not for the > faint of heart, especially at the lower-end of the scale.**** > > **** > > Fortinet has a really good mix of feature and pricing, but I'm not happy > with what they did at the low end with their last OS release -- allegedly > in the name of performance/stability. (Mind you, the features they took > out of v5 all work with version 4 of their OS)**** > > **** > > Sophos has done really well with their acquisition of Astaro, and their > looking to take on the mid-market with their pricing and feature bundles.* > *** > > **** > > Cisco strength, IMO, remains in core switch networking. If they had to > sell the ASAs without the benefit of the Catalyst family as a tie-in, > they'd have given up that business long ago. Same for their load-balancing > prowess. Neither their pricing nor their feature set are appealing in > areas outside of their core.**** > > **** > > CheckPoint licensing has still not been simplified to the degree that I > would like, and their strengths are more suited to large enterprises than > SMB or the mid-market space. Not a bad product by any stretch of the > imagination, but you can get more for your money elsewhere.**** > > **** > > That's just my view of the landscape...**** > > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *ASB > * > *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > for the SMB market…***** > > **** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Patrick Salmon <psal...@gmail.com> > wrote:**** > > Yes. YMMV but the last client I worked with who looked hard at the very > compelling PA story changed their mind after the sticker shock hit.**** > > **** > > Oh and ASB, you quite sure about that? This came out last month at the MWC > in Barcelona. > http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-juniper-review-idUSBRE91P0S220130226?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=56505 > **** > > **** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:** > ** > > I haven't priced the PA stuff, but I had somehow picked up the idea that > they were less expensive than Cisco. > > Am I wrong about that? > > I hope not, because everything I've heard about their products is > tantalizing... > > Kurt**** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote:**** > > I would have mentioned the PA devices, but Pierre did indicate some price > sensitivity... :)**** > > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *ASB > * > *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > for the SMB market…***** > > **** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:*** > * > > And I'm quite anxious to lay my hands upon a Palo Alto device and see what > it can do. > > EZ can probably talk your ear off about that... > > Kurt**** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote:**** > > Hi Pierre,**** > > **** > > I'm not that fond of Cisco in the UTM space...**** > > **** > > I would definitely select Juniper over Cisco, and Juniper will be better > priced than CheckPoint.**** > > **** > > Are you able to get Sophos UTM devices? They have a very robust UTM line, > and the pricing is better than many.**** > > **** > > There's also Fortinet, although I'm not happy about what they've done with > v5 in taking away some of the features from the lower-end of the product > line. **** > > **** > > Regards,**** > > **** > > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *ASB > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > for the SMB market…***** > > **** > > **** > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Pierre-Marie Camilleri < > pmcamill...@laferla.com.mt> wrote:**** > > Hi all**** > > **** > > Thought of posting this here in order to obtain some feedback. I am > planning to replace our old firewall and have been looking at both > Checkpoint and Juniper UTM appliances. Prices aren’t cheap and was > wondering how Cisco compares with these products (pricewise and features). > **** > > What we need is a UTM appliance offering Firewall, IPS, VPN and Web > Filtering. Does Cisco sell such an appliance and what are your experiences > (good/bad) of using Cisco for your network security.**** > > **** > > TIA**** > > Pierre**** > > **** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ** ** > > > The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is > from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® > (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and > may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. 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