Thanks man. Building the house and planning the wedding has kept me busier 
than ever (ya know, besides working...). We are aiming for an early fall 
(2009) wedding in Newport, but haven't been able to pick a place yet. We 
have to get on that though because they are booking fast.

Looking forward to getting together and talking at some point. I am in 
town at least two weeks a month (and all weekends) so we'll have to figure 
something out. Hope all is going well with you personally and 
professionally!

Jeff


Jeff Wilhelm | Vice President, Information Technology
Accudata Integrated Marketing / RedSail Interactive 
Phone: 401.294.5991  |  Cell: 401.481.5991 





Yes Jeff, 
 
We definitely, do, things I want to talk with you about. Work wise. 
 
Defintely good luck on the Wedding ( I know Newport in the summer is a 
killer wedding time, but its definitely one of a kind) 
 
Z
 
Edward E. Ziots
Netwok Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505





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I'm moving in a few months to North Kingstown, RI. One of the best school 
districts in the state -- planning ahead. Currently in a condo in West 
Warwick, RI and trying to sell it. 

The 3/4 acre I just bought was $215k. Building a four bedroom house (3377 
sq ft) on that now, for another $500k. Property taxes on it will be 
$9500/yr -- ouch. In this market. in the highly-ranked towns, there hasn't 
been too much of a drop. North Kingstown, East Greenwich and Barringon all 
have pretty good demand, not a lot of land to build on, and it's of course 
expensive to live in New England. 

Also trying to plan a wedding in Newport, RI currently -- that is not 
cheap. Fiance and I are both 25. She has a MS in Speech Language 
Pathology, I have a BS in Management Information Systems. 

As far as work goes I travel about 30% of the time (to our FL offices 
mainly), and work from home about 30% of the time. I run the IT division 
for the company and have eight people under me (three in Fort Myers, two 
in Clearwater, two in Denver, one in North Kingstown). Company is roughly 
a $50m company. My base is $125k, bonus based on EBITDA, but let's say 
20%, and consulting is rougly $50k. 

Ed, we still have to get together sometime soon... 

Jeff



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Portland, OR area. Very modest 1500sq ft house built in 1969 (modernized 
however) paid about $225K three years ago. Property tax is in the $2K/year 
range. No sales tax on products or cars (we pay state income tax though). 
Portland metro house prices have gone crazy in the last 10 years (we blame 
Kalifornians J). Nine years ago a similar house we paid $130K. There are 
areas you can get similar houses for $160-ish, but you’re either in a bad 
part of town, adding 30 minutes to your commute, or both. *Extremely* 
diligent looking can still snag you a good deal at a good place, but you 
have to be very quick and a little lucky. Finding a foreclosure wouldn’t 
hurt, either. 
  
Dave 
  
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IT Salary Survey 
  
I’m in SC…state employee. Make about $52K. Have had offers in the $70s, 
but would have to work longer hours and travel some. At this point I 
prefer to spend time with my sons. My benefits are better than I would 
find elsewhere. I get 5 weeks paid vacation, 3 weeks paid sick leave, 
holidays, and a retirement plan. My share of my health insurance is 
$90/month. 
  
I’m curious about the cost of living/housing in various places. I live in 
a 2500 sq. ft. brick house with a pool. It last appraised at about 
$200K…county property tax $1200/year. My wife just bought a 2008 Toyota 
Corolla for about $16K…county property tax this year was $350. I don’t 
live in the city limits, so no city taxes. Sales tax 5-8 percent depending 
on what you’re buying…car sales tax maximum $300. 
  
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IT Salary Survey 
  
Amazed how many people stated their salary ranges, I love it. High school, 
no college, CNA (Novell 4.x)13 years ago but no certs. 13 years experience 
(unless you count playing with PC’s as a hobby before that from 1988-ish). 

In 1996 I started at a division with 37 users and one Novell 3.12 server 
and $23K/yr 
1997 I broke $30K/yr 
I think around 2002 I broke $50K/yr 
Currently comfortably over $60k, but not quite as much as EZ. Changed jobs 
last year from CSC to the non-profit I’m at, salary did not change. 
  
That’s my day job – my own side biz  I bill $75/hr which, if you do the 
math and I did 40hrs/week would be $156K/yr. Some things in life (like low 
stress) are more important than money, so I let my day job pay for health 
insurance and retirement plan. J. Being 100% your own boss?  Priceless, 
and gutsy – congrats! 
  
Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 
  
  
From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:22 PM
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Drop out (just prior to completing BSc), no certs, 20 odd years of 
experience – 6 figures... 
Being my own boss – priceless... 
  
Regards, 
Amer Karim 
Nautilis Information Systems 
  
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: March-07-08 2:05 PM
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Subject: Re: IT Salary Survey 
  
Drop out, current CISSP, former MCSE/CCNA/CNE, 6 figures... 
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I'm a drop-out with no certs.  I make more. 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Shawn Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just for fun:
>
> I'm an RCHE in RHEL5 with a CIS Diploma and 8 years of experience with
> Windows Admin, Linux Admin, basic Network Admin and PHP/VB programming
>
> I make almost 60k.  I live in Northern BC Canada.
>
> Shawn
>
> > Forgot that list.
> >
> > What is everyone here making? :)
> >
> > Include degree, Cert too.
> >
> > -Z.V.
> >
> > From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:48 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: IT Salary Survey
> >
> > and I know a lot of people with certifications that I would not pay 
$15 /
> > hr.
> >
> > Klint
> >
> > Tim Vander Kooi wrote:
> > Not to mention that the surveys only list the salary by certification. 
I
> > know of few companies that set your salary based on just your certs. 
Red
> > Hat/Microsoft/Cisco/Comp TIA/etc. can't be held responsible for the
> > overall incompetency of the people passing their tests.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:25 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: IT Salary Survey
> >
> > Those surveys show how much management (current and potential
> > interviews) try to screw you.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:06 PM, John Hornbuckle
> >  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I found this to be an interesting read:
> >
> > http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8175
> > <http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8175&tag=nl.e539> &tag=nl.e539
>
> >
> > A little depressing since I'm well below average, but it does make me
> > feel better about going after my Master's degree. It seems that folks
> > who can effectively manage projects are the ones making the most
> >
> > money,
> >
> > and the MIS program at FSU has multiple courses on project management.
> > Maybe after the grad degree, my next step should be project management
> > certification!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > 318 North Clark Street
> > Perry, FL 32347
> >
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
> >
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Yes Jeff, 
 
We definitely, do, things I want to talk with you about. Work wise. 
 
Defintely good luck on the Wedding ( I know Newport in the summer is a 
killer wedding time, but its definitely one of a kind) 
 
Z
 
Edward E. Ziots
Netwok Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
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