Something to note about the old Wang tower:  The building forms the
letter W when seen from the sky.  This was [I guess] to impress
visitors flying in via the helipad on the roof.

I'm somewhat of a local and spent some time at Eastman Kodak which was
previously a software division at Wang before Kodak purchased it and
Wang completely dissolved into other entities.


On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Peter van Houten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well Ray [and all of us old "Wangers"], don't know if you ever went to
>  the towers but it is quite sad to see it now:
>
>  http://alum.wpi.edu/~tfraser/Stories/Wang/index.html
>
>  This bloke's site is quite interesting and has lots of old hardware for
>  those that are interested.
>
>  On the 09/04/2008 17:52, RAY ZORZ wrote the following:
>
> >
> > I consider myself lucky that I didn't have to deal much with PC's.  I
> >  started on mini's, including a kind of home grown Ti/990 based system,
> then moved to Wang systems, then moved to another proprietary
> >  IVR system.   I barely utilized DOS machines.  I did buy a 286 around the
> time the 386's came out.  I can't remember what version of
> >  DOS it had.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > "Tom Strader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/9/2008 8:15 AM >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > My Dad had the "Commode 64" (as he used to call it), that was when I
> >  was ohhh, 10 years old. I started on DOS 2.0. I miss DOS 5.0, it WAS
> >  revolutionary.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Nikki Peterson - OETX
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008
> 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers
> >
> >
> > Commodore-64, ran home, hooked it up to my tv. :)  later I bought a 1721
> tape drive. Very cool! I killed Grues that lived in dark places...
> >
> > My first HD I don't remember the make, but, that's where I learned all
> about Directories, and why they are nice to have. (I installed everything on
> the c:/).
> >
> > My first Windows program 1.0 at work, it had the coolest thing called
> >  Program Manager where it showed you just the exe files that you could
> select and launch from (No menu had to be configured).
> >
> > Dos 5.0 REVOLUTIONARY!!!!
> >
> > Gosh, that was a while ago.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Ames Matthew B
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:34 AM To: NT
> System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers
> >
> >
> > I still have at home an Osborne OS/1.  The keyboard for that was actually
> the top of the case (handle bit) which unclipped.  Dual 5 1/4imch floppy
> drives and about a 4 inch monocrome CRT.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Kim Longenbaugh
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 April 2008 15:29 To: NT System
> Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers
> >
> >
> > Back in my day, the "laptops" were the size of a suitcase and called
> "luggables".  Compaq's luggable had a small monochrome crt, about 4 or 5
> inches.
> >
> > As far as a command prompt is concerned, coming from a Novell environment,
> I always felt like you had to actually know what your were doing because of
> the CLI, as opposed to poking around with the mouse until you got lucky and
> found what you needed
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Reimer, Mark
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:10
> >
> >  AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers
> >
> >
> >
> > I still have a Toshiba T1000 Laptop, and it still works. It has one floppy
> (720K), no HD and 512K RAM (IIRC), and Dos 2.11 on ROM (with BASIC of some
> variety). On another note, I'm still using a 300 Baud modem (actually a 2400
> Baud modem downgraded to 300 Baud) to connect
> >  to a fairly old PBX phone system to download logs.
> >
> > But those were the days. We actually got quite a bit done on those old
> machines, and I still prefer a command prompt over Windows Explorer for many
> file functions. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list like this.
> Showing my age...
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Angus Scott-Fleming
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:45 AM To: NT
> System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers
> >
> >
> > On 8 Apr 2008 at 23:52, Benjamin Zachary  wrote:
> >
> >
> > > You know I was right on that page and flipped through it real quick
> > >  and went on to look up the original ibm pc and a bunch of other
> > >
> > things.
> >
> > FWIW I still have an IBM XT on the shelf, monochrome monitor, IBM
> keyboard, and all.  One of these days I'll have to see if it still boots
> --before I put it up for sale on eBay ;-)
> >
> > My first personally-owned PC was a Zenith Z-152, 4.77 MHz, 320k of RAM and
> dual 360k floppies (320k/360k ? memory fades with time).  It
> >  cost me over $3,000, with Microsoft Word 1.0 for DOS and an Okidata
> >  MicroLine 9-pin dot-matrix printer (which I still have).  My
> brother-the-computer-scientist was jealous -- he worked at the local
> university and "only" had 64k of workspace on the CDC mainframe.
> >
> > On Dec. 31 one year (don't you love the income tax?) I upgraded the Z-152
> to 640k RAM and a 7-MHz NEC V20 chip and added a $399 20-megabyte
> full-height hard drive.  Ended up giving it to my kid's pre-school loaded
> with reading and other teaching programs, all pre-Windows, of course.
> >
> > When I upgraded my 1200-baud modem to 2400-baud I had to find an off-line
> Compuserve-forum-saving/reading program (OzCIS -- for the "old timers" --
> did anyone else here use it?) -- at 1200-baud I could
> >  read the forums as they scrolled by, but at 2400-baud I could no longer
> keep up.  Egad, I still remember my Compuserve ID: 75500,3223
> >  and there's even one Google "hit" on my CIS ID still remaining "out
> >  there":
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=%2275500%2C3223%22
> >
> > Anybody here remember TeamB for dBASE?
> >
> > Angus
> >
> > P.S. Yes, I have a (partially) grey beard -- not quite Sid Dabster but
> "one of these days" I'll get there ;-)
> >
> >
> > -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038
> +-----------------------------------+
> >
>
>
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