Not nearly a long enough feed and you forgot the small fire and roasting pans full of grease.
Jon On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, they probably make more money from this than a straight > job, or at least close enough that the thrill of being bad is enough > to make up for it. > > Have I told you about my fantasy regarding folks like these? It > involves a tree, some rope, a few razor blades, and a live video feed > to CNN for, say, about 24 hours. > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wish most software vendors were as diligent as the Antivirus 2008 > authors > > are. > > > > Looked at objectively - the software is everywhere, they come out with > > regular updates (it goes as far back as "XP Antivirus 2004"), it works as > > the authors intended, small footprint, great coding...Somebody give these > > guys a straight job! > > > > -- Durf > > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Stu Sjouwerman < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> We have it in there, but this thing mutates every few hours so > >> you cannot really catch it with a static definition. We're in > >> the process to get a heuristic def for this one! > >> > >> Stu > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:55 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware > >> solution? > >> > >> Silly after question Stu, does Vipre's current definition set catch the > >> Antivirus 2008 malwares? > >> > >> -troy > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:30 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware > >> solution? > >> > >> CNET is pretty good and resonably independent / objective. > >> > >> This is their current list of antispyware products (many include AV) > >> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3688_7-6812013-1.html?tag=feat.1 > >> > >> CounterSpy is their number one choice. Defender is second, 'cuz it's > >> free. However, Defender does not do very well in shoot-outs. > >> > >> But for an enterprise app, the most important thing is RESOURCES, (apart > >> from catch rates obviously) Check which consumer products are taking how > >> much. We are now working on the enterprise side of these products: > >> http://www.vipreenterprise.com/Why-VIPRE-Enterprise/VIPRE-Stats.htm > >> > >> I would very much like you to try VIPRE enterprise and let the list know > >> how this went: > >> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ > >> > >> Here is someone who did! > >> > >> "Everything seems to be working great. Installation was a breeze and as > >> your marketing claims, I can't even notice it's running. > >> > >> > >> "We originally had Norton AV (years ago) and switched because of the > >> incredible lag it created when installed. Then we switched to Computer > >> Associates (CA) eTrust. Even that was too much for my manufacturing > >> floor machines, and as those machines don't have access to the internet, > >> I actually removed all AV from them. Another thing I disliked about > >> eTrust - the interface is done in Java and hardly ever worked right. > >> > >> > >> "Now that some of my manufacturing floor users have started needing > >> internet email access, I've been itching to put AV back on, and VIPRE > >> seems to be working great. I haven't gotten a single complaint yet that > >> any of those systems are acting slow. I use to occasionally put our > >> previous AV software on a few machines just to make sure no virus was > >> running ramptant out there, and I'd immediately get feedback that > >> certain machines were acting really slow. > >> > >> > >> "Anyways, great job on the new system! Easy to install, easy to deploy, > >> great interface, and almost no system performance hit. Plus a very > >> reasonable price too! Thanks!" -- Ron > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:32 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware > >> solution? > >> > >> > >> AVG 8 is a pig if you turn on all the features though, especially the > >> Link Inspector. > >> > >> Whatever you use, remember to leave UAC turned on and the users running > >> as non-admin. :) > >> > >> -- Durf > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Carl Houseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> I would suggest that since AVG's Free version now includes their > >> anti-spyware stuff, a home user is in pretty good shape with > >> that. For > >> business users who are buying AV anyway, buy one that has the AS > >> stuff > >> included - e.g. AVG, Vipre, etc. > >> > >> In the FWIW dept, I have seen Defender sound off about things > >> detected, so > >> it's not 100% placebo. Maybe only 99%. ;) > >> > >> Carl > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:00 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti > >> spyware solution? > >> > >> > >> I have to disagree. The price of free is not worth the suckfest > >> that > >> you operate under the false-sense of security with. > >> > >> I've repaired enough compromised systems to validate the "free" > >> price > >> tag of anything. NOD32 and Spybot Search and Destroy (with > >> TeaTimer > >> running) FTW. > >> > >> If you are only going to run free stuff, dont use IE. Use > >> Firefox > >> with AdblockPlus and NoScript addons installed. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Troy Meyer > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > OK I realize we all hate Microsoft and that their products are > >> the worst > >> thing since losing the Gymnastics gold medal, but for the price > >> of *FREE* > >> Defender does a good job at finding and removing some malware. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ME2 > >> > >> > >> > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! > >> ~ > >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -------------- > >> Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. > >> Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> . > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > >> > >> > >> .. > >> > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > > > -- > > -------------- > > Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. > > Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks! > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
