Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this > morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. > > ;-P > > > > *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the > box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to > over-read into things. > > > > Christopher J. Bosak > > Vector Company > > c. 847.603.4673 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."* > > *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* > > > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > Silly tools? > > <rant> > > Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the > iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. > > My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone > has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it > perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect > device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some > people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it > can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that > perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to > someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens > to be different? > > </rant> > > > > Regards > > Jonathan > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. > No silly tools to configure. Just works. > > > Christopher J. Bosak > Vector Company > c. 847.603.4673 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." > - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me > > -----Original Message----- > From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 > users on that touch ;) > > -Troy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get > e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to > get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J > > > > Ben M. Schorr > Chief Executive Officer > ______________________________________________ > Roland Schorr & Tower > www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > One more reason Blackberries rule! > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership For Strong Families > > ________________________________ > > From: Bob Fronk > To: NT System Admin Issues > Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > Apple support says the "update server is down…. > > > > So why the *&*% did it offer to upgrade the (&(*(*&#$ software if the > (&^$%^*# server is (&(*&#$ down…. > > > > Bob Fronk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > I am getting ready to call them…. > > > > No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the > iphone hype…. > > > > Bob Fronk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to > the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately > it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd > definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). > > > > Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? > 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? > > > > Andrew Greene > > IS Technician / Webmaster > > City of Anderson > > > > From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was > available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I > should have just left it alone. > > > > 1 hour 20 mins now….. still on "restoring iPhone software > > > > Bob Fronk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > It's Apple. As soon as Steve Jobs receives confirmation that your soul is > in this secure storage lot, then it will finish. Not before then. > > > > Christopher J. Bosak > > Vector Company > > c. 847.603.4673 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." > > - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me > > > > From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 13:26 hrs > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > > > I just bought my son an iphone. Before giving it to him I am running the > 2.1 update. > > > > So just how long does this update take? There is no music or apps on the > iPhone yet. Going on 1 hour now….. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Bob Fronk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), > confidential and/or privileged material. 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