Im getting a HTC Touch Diamond next month. I gots to have RDP on my phone, it a 
moral imperative!

James
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonathan Link 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?


  Perhaps.
  My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative 
technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt 
system administrators list.  Many of us here are working with varied and mixed 
environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence.  
  I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple.  Does 
Apple have control issues?  Sure, but then so does Microsoft.  So does IBM, HP, 
Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as 
possible.  Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that 
control to fulfill their vision.  If you happen to disagree with that vision, 
that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount 
any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the 
right tool for a given application.  I try and use the best tool for the job.  
To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play 
some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've 
collected of our daughter since she was born.  I spec'ed out similar systems 
from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously).  All were about comparable in price for 
what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video 
editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp.  I run Bootcamp 75% of 
the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp 
partition through Fusion.


   
  On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning 
when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. 

    ;-P



    From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM 


    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?




    Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the 
box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to 
over-read into things. 



    Christopher J. Bosak

    Vector Company

    c. 847.603.4673

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



    "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

    - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me



    From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    Silly tools?  

    <rant>

    Sheesh, cut the hyperbole.  Perhaps there's a good application where the 
iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't.  

    My iPhone just works, too.  I don't make a big deal about it until someone 
has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work.  Is it perfect, 
of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a 
best fit.  For many people that will be an iPhone.  Some people will want it to 
be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for 
their needs.  I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage 
needs.  Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one 
that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different?

    </rant>



    Regards

    Jonathan

    On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

    I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange.
    No silly tools to configure. Just works.


    Christopher J. Bosak
    Vector Company
    c. 847.603.4673
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

    "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
    - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs
    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?

    See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 
users on that touch ;)

    -Troy

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?

    Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get 
e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly.  Took almost twice as long to get 
a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail.  J



    Ben M. Schorr
    Chief Executive Officer
    ______________________________________________
    Roland Schorr & Tower
    www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/>
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



    From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    One more reason Blackberries rule!
    John W. Cook
    Systems Administrator
    Partnership For Strong Families

    ________________________________

    From: Bob Fronk
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008
    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?

    Apple support says the "update server  is down….



    So why the *&*% did it offer to upgrade the (&(*(*&#$ software if the 
(&^$%^*# server is (&(*&#$ down….



    Bob Fronk

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



    From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    I am getting ready to call them….



    No… I don't know what it had on it.  Have not been keeping up with the 
iphone hype….



    Bob Fronk

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



    From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to 
the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it 
wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely 
give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good).



    Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 
2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2?



    Andrew Greene

    IS Technician / Webmaster

    City of Anderson



    From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    I connected it and opened iTunes and activated.  Then it said an update was 
available and I hesitantly allowed the update.  Now I am nervous that I should 
have just left it alone.



    1 hour 20 mins now…..  still on "restoring iPhone software



    Bob Fronk

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



    From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    It's Apple. As soon as Steve Jobs receives confirmation that your soul is 
in this secure storage lot, then it will finish. Not before then.



    Christopher J. Bosak

    Vector Company

    c. 847.603.4673

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



    "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

    - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me



    From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 13:26 hrs
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?



    I just bought my son an iphone.  Before giving it to him I am running the 
2.1 update.



    So just how long does this update take?  There is no music or apps on the 
iPhone yet.  Going on 1 hour now…..



    Thanks.



    Bob Fronk

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]









































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