Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list.  I
can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them.  Now it
sounds like everybody is jumping ship!  
 
 
*******************************
John C. Kelsey
DuBois Regional Medical Center
(:  814.375.3073  
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
        
        

        Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am
very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I
had with ESET.
        jlc

         

        From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

         

        Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to
Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare
themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. 

        If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but
reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with
ESET for now (against my want).

         

        ___________________________________

        Stefan Jafs

         

        From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

         

        Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent
being released in several weeks.  

         

        Alex

        Alex Eckelberry, CEO
        Sunbelt Software, Inc.
        33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755
        727.562.0101 x220
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
        www.sunbeltsoftware.com <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/>  
        www.sunbeltblog.com <http://www.sunbeltblog.com/> 

         

         

        
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        From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

        I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending
email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when
selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in
what they say. 

         

        Jonathan Gruber

        Network Administrator

        J.B. Long Inc.

        610-944-8840  x.213

        484-637-1978  direct

         

        From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

         

        I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I
wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know.

         

         

        Phil Thompson

        
________________________________


        From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

         

        Yes.

         

        Paul Chinnery 
        Network Administrator 
        Memorial Medical Center 
        231-845-2319 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM
                To: NT System Admin Issues
                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                Is that the error when sending and email?

                 

                 

                Phil Thompson

                
________________________________


                From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM
                To: NT System Admin Issues
                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                 

                He kept getting the "Operation Failed" error.

                 

                Paul Chinnery 
                Network Administrator 
                Memorial Medical Center 
                231-845-2319 

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Richards, Brian D
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM
                        To: NT System Admin Issues
                        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                        I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running
the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007...

                         

                        
________________________________


                        From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                        Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM
                        To: NT System Admin Issues
                        Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                        Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was
causing him trouble.  As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with
email, I just turned off Emaili protection.

                         

                        Paul Chinnery 
                        Network Administrator 
                        Memorial Medical Center 
                        231-845-2319 

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: David Lum
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM
                                To: NT System Admin Issues
                                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                                Nope no regrets, the "bad me" was more
about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre -
hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before
shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if
you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine.

                                 

                                As stated earlier... on one client I
cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have
that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to
test settings changes on a small group first J.

                                 

                                Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is
great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the
product almost as well as Sunbelt.

                                David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
                                NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
                                (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell)
503.267.9764

                                 

                                From: Chinnery, Paul
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM
                                To: NT System Admin Issues
                                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                                 

                                So are you saying you regret moving to
Vipre?

                                 

                                Paul Chinnery 
                                Network Administrator 
                                Memorial Medical Center 
                                231-845-2319 

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: David Lum
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM
                                To: NT System Admin Issues
                                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                                As someone else said, load it up on a
server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre
Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd
just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs
NOD32.

                                 

                                Speaking of AV, in my experience I have
had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to
Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend
updated their product. Bad me.

                                David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
                                NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
                                (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell)
503.267.9764

                                From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM
                                To: NT System Admin Issues
                                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                                 

                                My network is 200 +

                                 

                                ___________________________________

                                Stefan Jafs

                                 

                                From: David Lum
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM
                                To: NT System Admin Issues
                                Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                                 

                                How big is your network? I converted a
couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka
Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not
100% convinced it's ready for "prime big time" (Nothing glaring really,
it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise
mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too.

                                 

                                For small businesses the lower cost will
probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the
security  to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J).

                                David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
                                NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
                                (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell)
503.267.9764

                                 

                                From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM
                                To: NT System Admin Issues
                                Subject: NOD32 - > VIPRE

                                 

                                My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I
installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good.

                                Is there any reason not to change?

                                NOD323 has worked very well for me, so
why switch?

                                Well the $$ are very attractive but if
there is a problem it's not worth the switch!

                                 

                                What are your experiences?

                                 

                                ___________________________________

                                Stefan Jafs

                                 

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