+1  It's a staffing resource issue, not necessarily just an MS issue. If you 
staff for "just enough to run the org", the spikes in work become unmanageable. 
IT resource time is like having a given amount of money...just because they 
*want* everything doesn't meant they have the necessary resources to get it. 
<avoiding taking a tangent here....>

Or put into a car analogy, if you're already at full speed and then need to go 
faster.....you're screwed until you get more horsepower.

"Look, you want me to fix the phone issue OR do you want me to protect 3000 
systems from possible compromise?" It's management's choice when you're in a 
rock and a hard place. For most of us our job is to give guidance and make 
recommendations, but resource allocation is a management call.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

I think Lifespan needs more people. Not giving you a hard time man, but it 
seems most of the pain you are having is because Lifespan doesn't have the 
staff to support the way things are, and the way they should be. MS would have 
released the patch last week if it was ready, or if it was done. They don't 
hate us, I honestly believe they understand our pain....

I am in much the same boat. Myself and 2 desktop techs for 3000 workstations, 
16 buildings and 7000 users. And we get the phones, audio visual, our own cable 
channel and all of that along with it. Which for a school system is pretty big.

When stuff like this happens to us I blame our staffing levels.


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

Ok not so much of a trend, problem is they probably knew of the issue before 
this months patch cycle, and didn't release it with Critical rating on patch 
Tuesday but a week afterwards, during everyone(s) patching cycle for there 
information systems. Now we have to validate yet another patch and ask yet 
again for more downtime from the business on servers and workstations etc etc 
to get required patches on the machines to protect against the latest threat.

What compounds it this month that there is already 11 patches to be tested, 
validated and deployed and vetted for issues afterwards, one of these patches 
is exploitable and could definitely lead to a worm (SMB flaw) now you add this 
remote exploitable, wormable patch, quiet possibly with public exploit code in 
the wild and active exploits, the risk factor goes up through the dam roof.

Now imagine if you was the only person responsible for accomplishing all (4) 
tasks above, and this new exploit on top. That doesn't make for a happy camper 
in anyones reguards.

Then factor the number of assets to protect by about 10,000.

I think you start to get the idea, its pretty crystal clear in my mind.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
________________________________
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

Trend? This is the first out-of-cycle patch from MSFT since April 2007.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

I am just pissed that they couldn't get this one out last week> Don't be 
surprised if you see a column in a leading magazine from me about this trend 
with M$ and other vendors.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
________________________________
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

The report on line shows Reboot Required if you open all the drop downs. It is 
for Remote Code Execution. It is Critical for Server 2003 all SPs and XP all 
SPs, Important for Vista/SP1 and Server 2008.
TVK

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

We wont know until 2:00est, I am assuming it is, and it's a bad one so there is 
probably exploit code for it roaming the internet and its probably wormable on 
top of it.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
________________________________
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

And it does require a reboot after install. I hate when out of cycle patches 
require reboots. I prefer when my users don't know.


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay tuned
Importance: High


Heads up gang, more patching for this month, this one out of cycle and critical 
no additional information yet.

Z

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

_____________________________________________

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9117878&source=NLT_AM&nlid=1

As if the 11 patches this month wasn't enough, now they releasing an 
out-of-cycle critical patch,

Gotta love patchin,

Z

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505









































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